coldsteel
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June 15th, 2020 at 3:35:18 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Anyway, I am looking at it more like your last thought. Just spend the summer doing other things.....outdoor activities that we enjoy and are much safer environment. The casinos will still be there come fall or whenever.


That means, you could DM me, a lone wolf, about the 2:1 time and location! My only qualification is that I, much like Khan, was fighting in the War against casinos at the tables years before many on this site were even born, heh heh...
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June 15th, 2020 at 3:44:29 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Not since the 1980's have I been in a casino that wasn't 24 hours. And that was (at the time) a tiny couple trailers Indian casino down near the Mexican/Texas border.



I do not think any casinos in IL are 24 hours. The time they are closed however is minimal and IMO stupid. For instance, Rivers in Des Plaines is open 9am to 7 am. Then again in IL casinos have to track the people that enter each day for tax purposes, which is why if you leave and plan on re-entry that day you need to get stamped
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redietz
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June 15th, 2020 at 5:25:15 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Well, my brother saw Dr Fauci on CNN last week talking about all the different uncertainties. One of the things Fauci said was "we don't even know what people that have recovered will be like in 6 months". I don't think Fauci was really saying there is substantial risk of re-infection. I think it was just a general expression of uncertainty about any of it.

It does bother me a bit that casinos and probably even more so, casino patrons don't seem to be taking this very seriously. I mean my own observation is that 1 in 5 are even wearing a mask. I think Wizard pegged it at 1 in 7. I mean how hard is it to wear a mask? Like I said earlier, people took this reopening and decided it meant things are back to normal.....no more covid-19. And that is not what the reality is.

Anyway, I am looking at it more like your last thought. Just spend the summer doing other things.....outdoor activities that we enjoy and are much safer environment. The casinos will still be there come fall or whenever. We'll see where things are then.




If you aren't up on it, there are new evaluations of people who do not seem to be shaking virus symptoms even after months, so the question is whether the virus is hanging out in them and firing back up cyclically or whether they are getting it again. It appears to be the former. I'll try to track down the link.

It'll be hard to shut down casinos again. There will be super-spreader events in the casinos, but because Nevada doesn't count out-of-staters who get sick against the state totals, nobody is going to know exactly how many people get sick from casino exposure. It will take some truly horrendous events, and maybe federal intervention, to strongarm them into shutting down. My suspicion is that most western states that rely heavily on tourism will use the same see-no-evil accounting to protect themselves from shutting down and hand the responsibilities for tracking and contact tracing off to other states.

It's a mess because there is no coordination. Really, the U.S. response has been horrific.

Probably a good idea to stay out of the locals places in the near term. Okay, I found the article I was looking for --


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/40-percent-of-coronavirus-patients-have-this-one-symptom-for-weeks/ar-BB15r3Ed?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

The one above goes into the symptom recurrences. Below is more in depth:

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/8/21251899/coronavirus-long-term-effects-symptoms

Finally, a rundown of results for those hospitalized with the disease badly, but who are listed as recovered:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/15/covid-19-can-damage-lungs-victims-beyond-recognition-expert-says
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June 16th, 2020 at 6:09:14 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

I do not think any casinos in IL are 24 hours. The time they are closed however is minimal and IMO stupid. For instance, Rivers in Des Plaines is open 9am to 7 am. Then again in IL casinos have to track the people that enter each day for tax purposes, which is why if you leave and plan on re-entry that day you need to get stamped



What idiot politician thought a head tax was necessary for gambling?
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June 16th, 2020 at 7:08:08 AM permalink
Sabre, in our neck of the woods we don't get a head tax, but we do get a car tax. Each casino is required to collect 2 bucks as each gambler parks his car in the parking deck. Some VIP gamblers pay nothing to park their cars because some casinos pay the State on behalf of the VIPs (i.e., comped parking.)
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June 16th, 2020 at 11:45:44 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I don't like wearing seatbelts. Id hardly ever wear one and every few months I'd get a ticket. It would cost me $25-50 and was well worth the cost. Then I got three in about six weeks and found out the hard way NYS had raised the stakes. $415 later, I decided not wearing a seatbelt was a hobby I could no longer afford.


I am amazed your are so terrified of Coronavirus yet prefer not to wear a seatbelt.

Your risk assessment skills are broken.
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June 16th, 2020 at 12:56:21 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

I am amazed your are so terrified of Coronavirus yet prefer not to wear a seatbelt.

Your risk assessment skills are broken.




My failure to wear a seatbelt won't cause me to bring a deadly infection home to my loved ones and friends.
I'm much more afraid of infecting people than getting it myself. I realize that's not in keeping with the rugged "damn the virus, full speed ahead" school of thought many of you have.
Just for the record- the last time anything terrified me was when I was about 8 and it was the Wonder Wheel at Coney Island.
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June 16th, 2020 at 4:05:33 PM permalink
Billryan, the statistics say that $184,891 in costs annually are required for the care of a paralyzed driver.

That seatbeltless driver didn't bring home covid19, but instead he bring home the self-made financial apocalypse. The $184,891 have not yet factored in the physical hardship & potential wages for the loved ones who have to take care of the quadriplegia 24/7. I hope that all wear seatbelts and avoid the financial apocalypse andn physical hardship.
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June 16th, 2020 at 4:29:14 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

My failure to wear a seatbelt won't cause me to bring a deadly infection home to my loved ones and friends.
I'm much more afraid of infecting people than getting it myself. I realize that's not in keeping with the rugged "damn the virus, full speed ahead" school of thought many of you have.
Just for the record- the last time anything terrified me was when I was about 8 and it was the Wonder Wheel at Coney Island.


No infection, just death by violent traumatic injury, or worse a feeding tube.

In a post in Coronavirus Math, you said “if I survive this...”

Your chances of dying from Coronavirus are extremely low. I would bet a lot of money that you are going to make it through this just fine.

Wanting to mitigate as much damage to the economy as possible and get back to some level of normal in spite of a virus that carries a very low risk is not stupid. Not wearing a seatbelt is brain dead stupid.
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June 16th, 2020 at 5:10:50 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

No infection, just death by violent traumatic injury, or worse a feeding tube.

In a post in Coronavirus Math, you said “if I survive this...”

Your chances of dying from Coronavirus are extremely low. I would bet a lot of money that you are going to make it through this just fine.

Wanting to mitigate as much damage to the economy as possible and get back to some level of normal in spite of a virus that carries a very low risk is not stupid. Not wearing a seatbelt is brain dead stupid.



Bill and I are confused why the idea of a contagion is confused with wearing seatbelts
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