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Beardgoat
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March 5th, 2015 at 11:50:11 AM permalink
I just don't see that happening at a large enough scale to be a large percentage of attendance. You think that every year you're going to see thousands of Florida Pathers fans coming to Vegas for hockey? Carolina Hurricanes? Tampa Bay Lightning? No way. You might get a few hundred at the most, but I don't see this as a yearly trip those fans will be making. As for fans back east like New York rangers, islanders, flyers etc... They can already go to Atlantic City. Why fly 3,000 just to go to a hockey game every year?

Biggest draw would be Canadian fans in my opinion.
rudeboyoi
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March 5th, 2015 at 11:56:46 AM permalink
Don't people move to vegas to avoid the cold?
Gabes22
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March 5th, 2015 at 1:08:47 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm very tempted to put down a deposit for season tickets to the potential Vegas NHL team. My plan would be to sell most of them but it would be fun to attend some of the games. I think the local fan base would be awful. I rarely meet anybody over the age of 30 who was born here. Vegas has got to be the most transient city in America. However, I could see the team being financially successful through selling tickets to Canadians looking for an excuse to come down here.

BTW, I attended a home game of the Ariz Cardinals vs. Minnesota Vikings. I'd say that 60% of the crowd was rooting for the Vikings. The disparity would be even more here.


There are other markets like that and some in markets that do have professional sports teams, such as Orlando. Vegas has gone through it population boom, and while it is expected to grow over the next 20 years, it is expected to stabilize somewhat. I think that while many people aren't from Vegas, the next generation will have grown up there
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Gabes22
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March 5th, 2015 at 1:12:03 PM permalink
Quote: Beardgoat

I just don't see that happening at a large enough scale to be a large percentage of attendance. You think that every year you're going to see thousands of Florida Pathers fans coming to Vegas for hockey? Carolina Hurricanes? Tampa Bay Lightning? No way. You might get a few hundred at the most, but I don't see this as a yearly trip those fans will be making. As for fans back east like New York rangers, islanders, flyers etc... They can already go to Atlantic City. Why fly 3,000 just to go to a hockey game every year?

Biggest draw would be Canadian fans in my opinion.


You are talking about franchises that aren't in the best shape. I would think the Blackhawks would be a draw, the Kings the Rangers, Flyers, Bruins. There will be two types of people to bring in attendance there. 1) Is the people who would come to Vegas centered around the game, but 2) is the people from these areas that are transplanted there already. I know, as a Packers fan, I can go to many towns in America and find myself a Packer bar or a Packer Organization in which to watch the game among friends.
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Beardgoat
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March 5th, 2015 at 1:46:27 PM permalink
The rangers, bruins, flyers, red wings are already a big draw in current stadiums. I'm sure it will be a big draw in Las Vegas too, just like they are in every city they play. But there is no chance of hundreds or thousands of people each year flying from New York or Philly or Detroit to Vegas every year just for a hockey game. Will people do it? Yes, maybe dozens of fans each year. Will those fans make it a yearly vacation?
thlf
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March 5th, 2015 at 1:49:36 PM permalink
Demo household Vegas vs Milwaukee. Looks very similar to me. I don't see Vegas as poor and vagrant. I still don't think they will support an NHL team tho.


Milwaukee
Less than $10,000 12.0%
$10,000 to $14,999 8.2%
$15,000 to $24,999 13.9%
$25,000 to $34,999 13.0%
$35,000 to $49,999 15.7%
$50,000 to $74,999 18.9%
$75,000 to $99,999 9.4%
$100,000 to $149,999 6.5%
$150,000 to $199,999 1.5%
$200,000 or more 1.0%
Median household income (dollars) 37,331
Mean household income (dollars) 47,900
Total households 221,194

Las Vegas
$15,000 13.3
$15,000 - $24,999 11.9
$25,000 - $34,999 12.3
$35,000 - $49,999 16.1
$50,000 - $74,999 18.9
$75,000 - $99,999 11.6
$100,000 - $124,999 6.6
$125,000 - $149,999 3.3
$150,000 - $199,999 3.2
$200,000 - $499,999 2.4
$500,000+ 0.4
Population 606,000
Aussie
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March 5th, 2015 at 2:38:20 PM permalink
Are there any minor league baseball teams based in Vegas? Or any lower level pro teams? How does the scorching heat in summer effect them? I can't imagine it would be pleasant.
Gabes22
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March 5th, 2015 at 2:41:06 PM permalink
The Las Vegas 51s are a AAA affiliate for the New York Mets. I think most of the games they play are night games. IMO, however, if they were to get an MLB team they would probably have a retractable roof to make it pleasant enough to be at the game.
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thlf
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March 5th, 2015 at 2:42:54 PM permalink
Las Vegas 51s the Mets Farm team. Most games played at night. Thursday night dollar beer nights are packed.
They just lost the Wranglers minor hockey team. I don't think due to attendance though. They always played at the oreans arena so not a ton of seats.
The 51's are on their 3rd Team in less than 10 years due to the stadium but they cant get the funding to build a new one. They play at Cashman field which is ok but lacks practice facilities.
DRich
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March 5th, 2015 at 3:00:40 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm very tempted to put down a deposit for season tickets to the potential Vegas NHL team. My plan would be to sell most of them but it would be fun to attend some of the games.



It will probably end up making more sense to just buy tickets on the secondary market for the games you would like to attend. There will be lots of them available and you will probably end up getting better seats at a price less than face value. When I was considering buying tickets I realized it would be between $8000 and $10,000 for four decent seats. Considering I will probably only go to five games a year I think I would get better seats for less money and not have to deal with trying to sell the tickets for the other forty games.
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