7winner
7winner
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June 12th, 2010 at 1:14:11 PM permalink
There are many obvious "No Roll" situations.
I have always thought that since the base dealer is responsible to make sure that there is "air" between cheques on the craps table in the self service areas, any cocked or suspended die or dice in any other area should be a no roll, which it is not.
The rules should be changed so both dice must sit flat on the table to be a roll. That would be fine with me, then no one could complain.
Once I saw a "through the wall" type shooter have both dice land in the hardway boxes, 6 and 8 to be exact, right on their edges between bets, stick asked Box the call and he called it hard 6. We all cheered of course.
The very next roll one landed in the same spot but was called easy six.
Im sure stranger things have happened.
7 winner chicken dinner!
DJTeddyBear
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June 12th, 2010 at 1:50:46 PM permalink
Quote: cclub79

Again, we are shown how a simple gesture that costs the casino less than a free buffet can make someone want to return. If only all Bosses were like that.

And, instead of leaving in a bad mood, FatGeezus got paid, and in all likelihood gave it back, and then some.

Yeah, that's the smart gamble for the pit boss.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ 覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧 Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
DJTeddyBear
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June 12th, 2010 at 2:04:57 PM permalink
Quote: 7winner

The rules should be changed so both dice must sit flat on the table to be a roll. That would be fine with me, then no one could complain.

C'mon... Some people would still complain.

Besides, there are too many rolls where one or both dice are slightly angled. You can't call them all no-roll - it would slow things down too much. Even where it's obvious which way it would fall, and would fall to a 7-out, the only complaints come from players that haven't heard the rule before.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ 覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧 Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
FatGeezus
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June 13th, 2010 at 8:30:41 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

And, instead of leaving in a bad mood, FatGeezus got paid, and in all likelihood gave it back, and then some.

Yeah, that's the smart gamble for the pit boss.



Wrong Wrong Wrong

I knew it was time to leave --- and I did!
DJTeddyBear
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June 13th, 2010 at 1:20:54 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

Wrong Wrong Wrong

I knew it was time to leave --- and I did!

Really? The pit boss does you a big favor, and you then leave? Did you at least leave a tip?
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ 覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧 Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
cardshark
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June 14th, 2010 at 6:57:11 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Really? The pit boss does you a big favor, and you then leave? Did you at least leave a tip?



I don't see it as the pit boss doing him a favour, but as the pit boss doing the right thing. Either way, he doesn't owe the pit boss anything. He did good by leaving with his winnings.
DJTeddyBear
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June 14th, 2010 at 7:26:13 AM permalink
The "Right thing" would be to make a single call, hopefully the right call, but one call for everyone.

By making two different calls - one for the regular players, and one for this single player on the don't, the pit boss absolutly was doing SOMEBODY a favor...
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ 覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧 Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
FatGeezus
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June 14th, 2010 at 10:06:50 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

The "Right thing" would be to make a single call, hopefully the right call, but one call for everyone.

By making two different calls - one for the regular players, and one for this single player on the don't, the pit boss absolutly was doing SOMEBODY a favor...



You are absolutely 100% correct. The right call was the first call that the Pit Boss made--7 OUT!!!

It wasn't clear in my original post but the dealer nearest the die called 7 OUT and when the players protested, the Boxman came over to say 7 OUT and finally when everyone still protested and called for the Pit Boss to come over and call it, he said 7 OUT. That's 3 people that called 7 OUT.

He did everyone else at the table a favor by changing his call to NO ROLL. He didn't do me any favor by changing his call. He knew he made a wrong call to satisfy everyone at the table, not realizing that I was on the Don't. It was the wrong call and that's why he paid me.
DJTeddyBear
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June 14th, 2010 at 10:58:49 AM permalink
Oh. That's completely the opposite of the way I pictured it.

Yeah, now I can't blame you for leaving after that incedent.


I take back anything I said about how you should have stayed and/or at least threw in a tip.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ 覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧 Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
BigTip
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June 17th, 2010 at 11:55:29 AM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

I was the only Don't Pass player at a very crowded table when one of the dice landed at an angle up against the back wall which was right in front of me. There was nothing that the dealer or pit boss could move to see which way the die would fall. The Pit boss came over and called a 7 out. When everyone started yelling and screaming that the call was wrong, the Pit boss changed his ruling and said 'no roll'. The stick man gave the dice to the shooter. I protested to the Pit Boss and said you know that was a 7 out. The Pit Boss didn't realize that I was the only Don't player at the table. He told the dealer to pay me for the 7 out even though he called 'NO ROLL'.

Everyone was happy. I got paid and the rest of the table was still in the game. I don't remember if the shooter made his point. All I remember is that I got paid.



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