Paigowdan
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March 26th, 2013 at 12:18:07 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

Somebody correct me here if I am wrong....but surveillance would require a background in dealing the different card games....working the craps tables...spinning the ball ......so you have an idea if things that are happening should be or if things you are watching via cameras is all wrong



Yes.

You have to know the games first hand - you pretty much have to have dealt - in order to visually spot a wrong dealing move, let's say. Witnessing a gaffed dealer or player motion has to be instantly seen and felt as suspect from the get-go, or else you might miss it.
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ComplexEnigma
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March 26th, 2013 at 1:22:58 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Yes.

You have to know the games first hand - you pretty much have to have dealt - in order to visually spot a wrong dealing move, let's say. Witnessing a gaffed dealer or player motion has to be instantly seen and felt as suspect from the get-go, or else you might miss it.



Hmm makes sense. However none of the requirements for the postings I saw mentioned dealing. Only thing I remember is game knowledge. I knew one person a while ago who worked casino surveillance and I don't believe he worked as a dealer.

When I get home I'll post the job links.
Paigowdan
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March 26th, 2013 at 1:28:11 PM permalink
I do think it's possible to survey table games without dealing experience, though it can help greatly. It gives a visceral, instinctual sense of a dealer or player's table actions, in terms of it being legit or gaffed.
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brianparkes
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March 28th, 2013 at 3:05:34 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Yes.

You have to know the games first hand - you pretty much have to have dealt - in order to visually spot a wrong dealing move, let's say. Witnessing a gaffed dealer or player motion has to be instantly seen and felt as suspect from the get-go, or else you might miss it.



It really depends. Most of my best observers have come into the industry not knowing anything about it. I have trained them from scratch and they have worked out great. It takes some dedication on their part to learn everything from the information provided. I tend to shy away from hiring ex-dealers for surveillance. They tend to get the itch to go back to where the tips are and a lot of them cannot handle the social isolation.

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