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February 10th, 2016 at 1:00:32 PM permalink
The problem I have with Bruce Jenner is that he/she ran over and killed someone and the media conveniently decided to ignore that part and just praise him/her for becoming a woman.

Also I don't see the problem with ontariodealer saying bet the over on blacks and females. If its a good bet its a good bet, unless the reasons are malicious or hateful, in which case I didn't think so from the way he wrote.
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February 10th, 2016 at 2:47:47 PM permalink
The Bruce Jenner comment was worse but my feel for what goes for offensive these days is that "black" can be used without offense as an adjective to describe somebody, but is disparaging as a noun.
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February 10th, 2016 at 3:28:04 PM permalink
I'll use "blacks" and "whites." "Male and female." But it seems like people who don't like those groups like to lean on those words.

My experience was sort of like, "the way that guy said 'blacks and females' it sort of seemed like he doesn't like them much."

"...and he thinks people he disproves of should be executed. Big surprise."

It's cool to know what people are really thinking though. It's easy to fool yourself into thinking such mindsets are extremely rare when you interact mostly with people who are filtering themselves.

As for the betting angle, I'd go a bit beyond race. An R&B singer (more likely black) will probably have a longer anthem, but I would expect it to be baked into the line.
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February 10th, 2016 at 3:48:51 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The Bruce Jenner comment was worse but my feel for what goes for offensive these days is that "black" can be used without offense as an adjective to describe somebody, but is disparaging as a noun.



Yes the comment about having him/her killed was a bit much for me.

It's just really hard to tell what is allowed and what isn't, depending on where you are. In basic training and tech school we were told to refer to females as females, and I was in during the scandal at Lackland which really ramped up the sexual harassment awareness presentations.

I saw some feminist writing articles about being referred to as a "female" was demeaning, and overheard a conversation about women who thought being called a "female" was weird, and strange.

I don't even know what to call "black people" or "african american" people anymore. I referred to a friend as an "African-American" and he said no I'm black. I had another friend said no I'm a N-word. This obviously was because we knew each other for a while he was comfortable with me saying that, but I probably won't make any new friends saying that to any random person.
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February 10th, 2016 at 8:22:49 PM permalink
I never understood the "African American" thing. I mean, I've never heard of someone say "Irish American", "German American", "European American", "Asian American", etc. Not only that, I'd think "African American" would be offensive to black people, since after all, I wouldn't know if the person is African OR American -- but I'd just be calling them African American because their skin is black? Some would say they are just American because they were born in the US, not Africa (I know of some Asians who say this...they aren't Asian, they're just American).


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February 10th, 2016 at 8:26:21 PM permalink
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I never understood the "African American" thing. I mean, I've never heard of someone say "Irish American", "German American", "European American", "Asian American", etc. Not only that, I'd think "African American" would be offensive to black people, since after all, I wouldn't know if the person is African OR American -- but I'd just be calling them African American because their skin is black? Some would say they are just American because they were born in the US, not Africa (I know of some Asians who say this...they aren't Asian, they're just American).


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I don't care what your skin color is, we're ALL of African descent.
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February 10th, 2016 at 8:30:49 PM permalink
explanation:

in my world bruce jenner would be shot....I dont care three s#$%s about him but where i grew up and it was the sixties he wouldnt show himself in public. I got banned on another site when tiger woods got in trouble i commented, in my world the only way he would get on the course would be as a caddy. i didn't mean it racially, it was a fact.

as for the national anthem as a betting vehicle, I need handicapping info on over and under......some 32 yr old white marine sarg comes out and I'm betting the under because he's gonna go "oh say can you see......." but some black dude comes out or any woman and its gonna be "ohhhhhhhhh, sayyyyyyyyyyyy, caaaaaaaaaaan youuuuuuuuuuuu seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

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February 11th, 2016 at 2:45:03 AM permalink
Oh well. Whatever deficiencies cause you to hate other people so much will probably be carried to the grave.

Quote: RS

I never understood the "African American" thing. I mean, I've never heard of someone say "Irish American", "German American", "European American", "Asian American", etc. Not only that, I'd think "African American" would be offensive to black people, since after all, I wouldn't know if the person is African OR American -- but I'd just be calling them African American because their skin is black? Some would say they are just American because they were born in the US, not Africa (I know of some Asians who say this...they aren't Asian, they're just American).


EDIT: Nvm, don't feel like getting suspended today.




People used to say Irish-American and so on a lot, though I've never heard "European-American." I don't know all the reasons that it is now less common, but one might be that we whites are mostly pretty mixed now. I'm a polish-irish-germ... ah, f it. Just white.
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February 11th, 2016 at 4:37:17 AM permalink
Quote: RS

I never understood the "African American" thing. I mean, I've never heard of someone say "Irish American", "German American", "European American", "Asian American", etc. Not only that, I'd think "African American" would be offensive to black people, since after all, I wouldn't know if the person is African OR American -- but I'd just be calling them African American because their skin is black? Some would say they are just American because they were born in the US, not Africa (I know of some Asians who say this...they aren't Asian, they're just American).


EDIT: Nvm, don't feel like getting suspended today.


It's funny you say that, because my maternal grandparents (who were of predominantly German descent) belonged to a local German-American club in their later years, where they celebrated German culture (food, drink, dancing, etc.). But I agree that it isn't that often. I do often times hear white Americans described as of "white European descent" but usually when an article is already talking about race.
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February 11th, 2016 at 12:32:00 PM permalink
Many moons ago (circa 2009), I was telling a joke in class. Think I was in 6th or 7th grade. Ya know, the ol', "What's a Mexican firefighter name his two fire hoses?" -- "Jose(Hose A) and Hose B"

After saying "What's a Mexican firefighter.." the teacher interrupted saying "immigrant, not Mexican" (perhaps said "illegal immigrant, not Mexican").....as if all Mexicans are immigrants. Funny, teacher was trying to be politically correct, when in reality what she said was even more offensive & NOT politically correct.

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