Doc
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January 29th, 2015 at 7:57:15 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

What would you all think would happen if the following two blackjack games were placed right next to one another on the casino floor:



Both would be crowded, and people would play whichever game had a seat available.
aceofspades
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January 29th, 2015 at 7:57:59 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

Both would be crowded, and people would play whichever game had a seat available.




My thoughts exactly
Doc
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January 29th, 2015 at 8:08:08 PM permalink
I think I have played 6:5 exactly once, and that was by error. I didn't recognize it until I was dealt a blackjack on my second or third hand. I looked at the short payout, read the felt, and then looked at the dealer. I said, "Sorry. My mistake. I thought this was a blackjack table." Then I stood, picked up my chips, and left.

However, if the casino is crowded and your only choices are 6:5 or don't play, I can see lots of people playing for $5.
tringlomane
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January 29th, 2015 at 11:11:49 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I agree with this 100%. A 2% hold at BJ is not the Las Vegas problem. The Las Vegas problem is the proliferation of gaming both in the U.S. and abroad.



Totally agree, but it's still a huge whining point at the other forum I post in a lot from red chip players. And Las Vegas is doing better than any other "mature market" in the US I think because they are trying to convert themselves to a party/convention destination while the other markets aren't being as proactive.

Quote: Doc

Both would be crowded, and people would play whichever game had a seat available.



If you change the 6:5 game to single deck and leave the 3:2 game at 6 decks, I'm pretty sure the single deck would have more. People are that dumb about it, seriously.
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January 29th, 2015 at 11:24:47 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

What would you all think would happen if the following two blackjack games were placed right next to one another on the casino floor:


GAME 1:

$5min
6D
DOA
DAS
No Surrender
S17
3:2 BJ


GAME 2:

$5min
6D
DOA
DAS
No Surrender
S17
6:5 BJ



If the dealer at game 2 has big tits and the dealer at game 1 doesn't, game 2 will certainly be packed.
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January 30th, 2015 at 12:36:24 AM permalink
The table with dealer with large assets would get more action.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
odiousgambit
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January 30th, 2015 at 3:01:04 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

If you change the 6:5 game to single deck and leave the 3:2 game at 6 decks, I'm pretty sure the single deck would have more. People are that dumb about it, seriously.



what I don't get is how come people know single deck = "good" but have no idea what BJ is supposed to pay?

for myself, I knew zilch about BJ not so long ago, so to me [then] to use 6-8 decks just meant a thing to make card counting hard. I didn't view single deck [edit] as a better game in any other way ... the general public knows this?
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January 30th, 2015 at 5:33:03 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

I think I have played 6:5 exactly once, and that was by error. I didn't recognize it until I was dealt a blackjack on my second or third hand. I looked at the short payout, read the felt, and then looked at the dealer. I said, "Sorry. My mistake. I thought this was a blackjack table." Then I stood, picked up my chips, and left.

However, if the casino is crowded and your only choices are 6:5 or don't play, I can see lots of people playing for $5.



I think Doc is right. They may not even notice the table is 6:5, or even think about the difference between 6:5 and 3:2. The world if full of dumb or lazy gamblers.

The evidence of this is every casino anywhere, who has installed 6:5 tables, and gets plenty of action on them. If the world was full of smart gamblers they would be deserted.

I personally been at single deck or spanish 21 tables...and despite all the signage and different layouts. People often sit down buy in for chips and then notice it's a different game, only when the cards are dealt, or sometimes not even then. I actually had people ask me at single deck...why are the cards face down. I explain it's single deck you pick them up and play them. They almost always use two hands and get yelled at by the dealer. They play for two hands look puzzled and leave usually.
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January 30th, 2015 at 5:33:35 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

The table with dealer with large assets would get more action.



This is also very true.
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January 30th, 2015 at 7:11:52 AM permalink
If someone wants to learn about blackjack or gambling in general, today there are plenty of resources available. WoO being a prime example. I also think the American Casino Guide has some good plain talk explanations. ACG is available at my local library.

But some people don't want to be bothered with that. That is their choice, of course.

Some people like to play slots. I like to play Video Poker. I do believe that the high house advantage games help support the availability of the lower house advantage games, promotions, etc.

ps:

In my youth, I liked the Strat because it had a handful of ~100% VP games, and the rooms were inexpensive.
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