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July 14th, 2021 at 7:28:30 PM permalink
Just my opinion but lumping Wild West and Eureka in with places with less than fifteen machines doesn't do them justice
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July 14th, 2021 at 8:52:15 PM permalink
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I was not aware of that Wild Wild West removed their table games. Is that permanent, or a temporary Covid thing?

You know, I do track this kind of stuff: Casino Timeline.

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July 15th, 2021 at 10:25:40 AM permalink
I pulled square footage and # of machines data from the Nevada Gaming Commission.

For 8 locations, there were 1-2 machines per 100sf, except for Eureka, there were 18(!) machines per 100sf. (721 machines, 4000sf) What gives?

FWIW, Casino City says Eureka has only 264 games, but of course they don't cite their source, and I imagine that they generally use NGC data. However, that would still be 6.6 games per 100sf, way more than the competitors.

BTW, note that there are several Dotty's locations with unrestricted licenses, which means that they can have more than 15 machines. The largest is #111, which has 226 machines, making it larger than Longhorn, Wild Wild West, and all Wildfire locations.
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July 15th, 2021 at 10:51:29 AM permalink
I'd guess that most of those locations are bars that have games, but also have seating for food. A place like Timbers only has games at the bar but the dining room takes up more room. Eureka has a fairly large bar with machines at some seats, but then has a decent sized casino floor.
I'd forgotten about the Wildfires, and then you have Barleys, which has a few hundred machines as well.
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July 15th, 2021 at 11:36:38 AM permalink
I'm drawing the line at Las Vegas postal addresses, so I wouldn't list Barley's, which is in Henderson.

There are dozens of casinos in Henderson, and I might start a list of Henderson casinos some day, but at the moment other items are a bigger priority.

BTW, I left a message with Eureka asking how many machines they have, since as I posted above, the numbers reported by NGC don't add up.
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July 15th, 2021 at 11:57:20 AM permalink
Understood.
Perhaps a new category- mega slot parlor or something could be established to differentiate between places with 15 machines and ones with hundreds.
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July 15th, 2021 at 12:29:01 PM permalink
I'm not listing places with only ~15 machines, that would be a waste. That would include so many convenience and grocery stores.
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July 15th, 2021 at 1:47:09 PM permalink
I would include them.

Here is just an idea. The Gaming Control Board has a list of all places with a "non-restricted" license. To qualify, a property must have 16 or more machines. Here is the list of such places in Vegas:

ALAMO CASINO - LAS VEGAS TA
ALBERTSON'S #6046
ARIA RESORT & CASINO
ARIZONA CHARLIE'S BOULDER
ARIZONA CHARLIE'S DECATUR
AZTEC GOLD INN & CASINO
BALLY'S LAS VEGAS
BELLAGIO
BINION'S GAMBLING HALL & HOTEL
BONANZA LOUNGE
BOULDER STATION HOTEL & CASINO
CAESARS PALACE
CALIFORNIA HOTEL AND CASINO
CARDENAS MARKETS
CASINO ROYALE
CHARLIE'S BAR DOWN UNDER
CHARLIE'S LAKESIDE CASINO
CIRCA RESORT & CASINO
CIRCUS CIRCUS HOTEL AND CASINO
COSMOPOLITAN OF LAS VEGAS, THE
CROMWELL, THE
D, THE
DOTTY'S #107
DOTTY'S #108
DOTTY'S #15
DOTTY'S #151
DOTTY'S #32
DOTTY'S #6
DOTTY'S #62
DOTTY'S #72
DOTTY'S #77
DOTTY'S #78
DOTTY'S #83
DOTTY'S CASINO #9
DOWNTOWN GRAND
DRAFT HOUSE BARN & CASINO
EASTSIDE CANNERY CASINO & HOTEL
EL CORTEZ
ELLIS ISLAND CASINO
EUREKA CASINO
EXCALIBUR HOTEL AND CASINO
FLAMINGO LAS VEGAS
FOUR QUEENS HOTEL & CASINO
FREMONT HOTEL AND CASINO
GOLD COAST HOTEL AND CASINO
GOLD SPIKE HOTEL AND CASINO
GOLDEN GATE HOTEL & CASINO
GOLDEN NUGGET
HARD ROCK CASINO
HARRAH'S CASINO HOTEL LAS VEGAS
JACKPOT JOANIES
JACKPOT JOANIE'S
JACKPOT JOANIE'S CASINO
LINQ HOTEL AND CASINO, THE
LONGHORN CASINO
LUCKY'S GAMING & SPIRITS CASINO
LUXOR HOTEL AND CASINO
MAD MATTY'S BAR & GRILLE
MAIN STREET STATION HOTEL, CASINO AND BREWERY
MANDALAY BAY RESORT & CASINO
MARDI GRAS INN
MGM GRAND HOTEL/CASINO
MICHAEL J. GAUGHAN AIRPORT SLOT CONCESSION
MIRAGE, THE
MOHEGAN SUN CASINO LAS VEGAS
MOLLY'S CASINO
MOLLY'S CASINO
NEW YORK - NEW YORK HOTEL & CASINO
ORLEANS HOTEL AND CASINO
OYO HOTEL & CASINO LAS VEGAS
PALACE STATION HOTEL & CASINO
PALMS CASINO RESORT
PARIS LAS VEGAS
PARK MGM
PEPPERMILL COFFEE SHOP AND LOUNGE
PLANET HOLLYWOOD RESORT & CASINO
PLAZA HOTEL AND CASINO
POINTS CASINO #211
PT'S GOLD
PT'S PLACE
PT'S PLACE
PT'S PLACE
RAMPART CASINO AT THE RESORT AT SUMMERLIN
RED ROCK CASINO RESORT SPA
RESORTS WORLD LAS VEGAS
RIO ALL-SUITE HOTEL & CASINO
SAHARA LAS VEGAS
SAM'S TOWN HOTEL & GAMBLING HALL
SANTA FE STATION HOTEL & CASINO
SILVER SEVENS HOTEL & CASINO
SILVERTON CASINO LODGE LAS VEGAS
SKINNY DUGAN'S
SMITH'S FOOD & DRUG CENTER #370
SOUTH POINT HOTEL AND CASINO
STAGE DOOR CASINO
STRAT, HOTEL, CASINO & SKYPOD, THE
SUNCOAST HOTEL AND CASINO
TREASURE ISLAND
TROPICANA LAS VEGAS
TUSCANY LAS VEGAS
VENETIAN RESORT HOTEL CASINO/PALAZZO RESORT HOTEL CASINO
VILLAGE PUB & CASINO-SUMMERLIN
WESTGATE LAS VEGAS RESORT & CASINO
WILD WILD WEST GAMBLING HALL & HOTEL
WILDFIRE CASINO
WILDFIRE VALLEY VIEW
WYNN LAS VEGAS

If it were up to me, I would exclude anything from the list that is basically a bar with slot machines as well as Dotty's (an argument could be made whether they even are a bar) and leave the rest in. I'm sure me and many of the locals on the forum could advise on what counts as a glorified bar.
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July 15th, 2021 at 2:09:40 PM permalink
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I would include them.

If by "them" you mean non-casinos (≤15 machines), then be my guest on writing them up if you think it's so easy. This would have to qualify as one of the absolute worst uses of my limited time.

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Here is just an idea. The Gaming Control Board has a list of all places with a "non-restricted" license.

Yeah, and if you'd ever deign to take a cursory look at my work, you'd know that I know all about this. I posted above about how I pulled data from NGC (along with a link), and my List of Casinos page lists several of the non-restricted licensees with, again, a link to NGC.

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If it were up to me, I would exclude anything from the list that is basically a bar with slot machines as well as Dotty's (an argument could be made whether they even are a bar) and leave the rest in.

As I posted earlier, the largest Dotty's is 226 machines, which is larger than Longhorn and Wild Wild West, so your suggestion that I exclude them is curious for someone who wants me to run down all the ≤15 establishments.
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July 15th, 2021 at 2:19:19 PM permalink
Which Dotty's is bigger than the Longhorn? It looks like Dottys #11 is in Reno, although there is also a Dotty's 11 in Oregon.
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