DeMango
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June 6th, 2017 at 4:58:55 AM permalink
Well if what is posted is correct, what will happen to the customer that has the cc permit and is properly carrying?
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billryan
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June 6th, 2017 at 8:49:05 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Well if what is posted is correct, what will happen to the customer that has the cc permit and is properly carrying?



A business can prohibit anyone, concealed permit holder or not, from carrying on their premise, as far as I know.
At least that's the law in NY. I believe that's nationwide. On duty law enforcement being the exception.
Canyonero
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June 6th, 2017 at 8:55:47 AM permalink
Hmm, I am torn here. On the one hand I oppose surveillance in all its forms. On the other hand, there already is almost complete surveillance in the casinos anyway. And scanning for guns may be one of the more sensible measures among casino surveillance. Plus, gun nuts may start boycotting these places as a matter of principle which will result in a safer environment. And less gun nuts around.
ahiromu
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June 6th, 2017 at 10:10:18 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

A business can prohibit anyone, concealed permit holder or not, from carrying on their premise, as far as I know.
At least that's the law in NY. I believe that's nationwide. On duty law enforcement being the exception.



I hope we have a gun nut here because I'm going off of old memories. But I believe if you concealed carry onto a gun restricted property, all they can do is kick you off their property, unless there are specific laws against it (like federal property).
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boymimbo
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June 6th, 2017 at 10:22:43 AM permalink
Correct. In Nevada it is not illegal to carry a gun into a casino if you have the permit and your BAC is not above .10. However, the casino and other private properties can have you removed for trespassing if you carry a weapon on site and there are casino rules against it. It is not breaking the law.
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Doc
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June 6th, 2017 at 11:28:25 AM permalink
Speaking just from hearsay here:

A friend of mine from Mississippi tells me that the laws there have an exception to the typical "No Firearms Allowed" restrictions. A holder of a Mississippi concealed-carry permit, who also has certified U.S. Military combat experience, is allowed to carry his firearm in those locations. My friend meets both of those requirements.

I suspect there are some special locations where this exception does not apply, but I did not ask about those. Assuming that exception is true/valid, I do not know whether a business, such as a casino, can still prohibit such a carrier's entrance into their facility. I suspect so -- it would be completely legal for him to carry there even when the signs say "No Firearms", but if they became aware of it, they could require that he leave. Just my guess.
FleaStiff
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June 6th, 2017 at 12:01:02 PM permalink
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they can call and tell LVPD whatever they want...they just can't report it as an actual crime.

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LuckyPhow
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June 6th, 2017 at 2:08:34 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

Speaking just from hearsay here: A holder of a Mississippi concealed-carry permit, who also has certified U.S. Military combat experience, is allowed to carry his firearm in those locations.



I wonder who "certifies" a person's military combat experience. Perhaps your friend can explain.

How do Air Force pilots dropping bombs and Navy sailors launching cruise missiles get their combat experience "qualified" for a firearm? Or, is it only for GI's and Marines? Not sure I'm comfortable with efforts to "sort" military veterans into those with and those without "combat" experience. Pretty confusing to me.

FWIW, I know the Biloxi Hard Rock casino has a "No Firearms" sign as you leave the elevators from the parking garage into the casino.
Doc
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June 6th, 2017 at 2:52:36 PM permalink
Yes, I have seen the "No Firearms" signs; I just don't know how they are applied in the case of combat-certified veterans with concealed-carry permits.

I suspect (don't know) that combat certification is obtained by presenting appropriate military records to the folks who issue the concealed-carry permits. I don't know what specific info they would be looking for in the records. For example, my DD-214 shows active duty from 1969-71, including the National Defense Service Medal (which I think went to everyone having honorable active duty in that period), but I do not have any combat experience at all. Yes, I guess it could be confusing to those of us who don't know what the real requirements are.
Yelruh
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November 21st, 2017 at 5:59:12 AM permalink
So, I was there briefly in October. I came in the main entrance, and wandered around the casino floor a bit before going upstairs to an event.

I didn't see any evidence of these scanners (nothing obvious on the wall), and no one bothered me. Anyone know if these were ever actually installed?

For the record, yes, I make a habit of carrying a firearm. It's a personal choice I made a decade ago.

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