s2dbaker
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July 19th, 2012 at 9:52:08 AM permalink
Time warp, schmime warp! I remember staying there when it was The International Hotel and Elvis was in the house!
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
heather
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July 19th, 2012 at 9:56:25 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I'm curious about what appears to be two dozen or so "lammers" in the silos in front of the chip tray. What are they for?



Keeping track of commissions on Banker wins. The dealers pay you for Banker wins at 1:1 and use those numbered boxes in front of the lammers to keep track of who owes what in commissions. Then you settle up before you leave the table. (I saw a guy play away his entire bankroll and then had nothing left to pay his commissions with. He left the table acting embarrassed. No idea whether they let him out the door or not.)

Quote: Ayecarumba

Also, can you enlighten us on the values of the different colored chips? (lavender/purple, orange?, cardinal (cranberry?)?, red/pink?,) I recall seeing a t.v. show on "whales" in LV where it was noted that the Hilton was one of the only casino's to have $25,000 (or was it $250,000?) "rainbow" chips. I guess that this was pre-Mirage.



At the Hilton:
Red/Green/Black - $5/$25/$100, as usual
Purple - $500
Orange - $1000
Cranberry - $5000

I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that they get bigger than that, but don't remember seeing them, if I ever even did!

Quote: s2dbaker

Time warp, schmime warp! I remember staying there when it was The International Hotel and Elvis was in the house!



Last I knew, that was still called the Elvis Presley Theater. I think I've got an International Hotel ashtray somewhere that I got used.
teddys
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July 20th, 2012 at 9:28:58 AM permalink
Quote: heather


At the Hilton:
Red/Green/Black - $5/$25/$100, as usual
Purple - $500
Orange - $1000
Cranberry - $5000

I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that they get bigger than that, but don't remember seeing them, if I ever even did!

Most big tables will have grey ($10,000), but they rarely if ever get used. And aren't cranberries usually $25,000?
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silversonic2006
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August 1st, 2012 at 4:47:54 AM permalink
I also watched this video (it's definitely worth it, you get a nice view of the Hilton's high limit room). The lavender are $500, the gold with pink/purple spots are $1000, the maroon with peach spots are $5000, and I would presume the fire orange in that single middle row of the chip tray are $25,000 (I've never seen a casino skip from $5000 to something higher than $25,000). Outside of Vegas, gray is $5000 traditionally, and fire orange is $1000, but that's in other areas...

When I played mini baccarat at a Caribbean casino, it was $10 min/$300 max, and the highest value chip they had were black ($100) chips. Now I know why baccarat always tends to keep at least $1000 chips in the rack...the high stakes players (playing table max) cleaned them out of $5 and $25 chips almost entirely. I was surprised the dealer didn't exchange some of the green for black...by the time I colored up and left about $180 ahead, it was 9 players on a 7 spot table (they just kept letting people squeeze in if there was room) and 2 pit bosses watching the table at either end.

Also, I finally got to see the crazy baccarat shuffle, since this casino didn't have an automatic shuffler. The feathering of the cards is definitely something to watch!
heather
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August 1st, 2012 at 5:11:49 AM permalink
Quote: silversonic2006

Also, I finally got to see the crazy baccarat shuffle, since this casino didn't have an automatic shuffler. The feathering of the cards is definitely something to watch!



I've actually seen it done at a mini-Bacc table. Watching one dealer do it in such a small space so quickly, and then sorting the cards into four neat stacks for loading into the shoe, was pretty cool.

Thank you very much for reassuring me that I wasn't going crazy regarding the maroon chips. Like I said, it's been a few years, but there are some chips that you look at much harder than others.

I am actually not a huge fan of Louis Thoreaux (guy with the glasses in the screenshots), although I watch most of his shows. He tends to cover really interesting subject matter, but also comes off as hopelessly naive (which could be a deliberate interview tactic on his part). Like on this show, he tries really hard to get the Hilton host to tell him how much his whale guest had lost, with the guest standing right there (the host obviously just smiles and says, "you'd have to ask him").
silversonic2006
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August 1st, 2012 at 1:25:56 PM permalink
Yeah, I don't know how one dealer can feather all 8 decks of cards together and not lose grip of the shoe...that was crazy to watch.

I was at the LVH about 4 weeks ago, and at that point, it looked like they had closed the high limit pit entirely (at least during weekdays). They only had one craps table with chips in the rack (the one that was working) and one $25 min mini bacc table out on the main floor. So sad to see that place go downhill...it was one of the only casinos that made it hip to be out of date...someone please rescue it (Carl Icahn? David Cordish? Someone?)
EvenBob
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August 1st, 2012 at 2:02:22 PM permalink
Quote: heather

He tends to cover really interesting subject matter, but also comes off as hopelessly naive



Thats an act he uses, and a very effective one. People
will often say a lot more to somebody who acts totally
ignorant. They want to inform him, to teach him. The
cops even do it sometimes in interrogation, act like
they don't know anything, when they actually know
everything.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
aceofspades
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August 1st, 2012 at 3:13:01 PM permalink
I watch this documentary over and over - love it and gets me psyched for my casino trips!!!
EvenBob
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August 1st, 2012 at 3:18:58 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

I watch this documentary over and over - love it and gets me psyched for my casino trips!!!



I've seen it many times. I love the guy who
wins 10 grand at BJ right away and then
loses it and his whole BR later. He's soooo
happy at the start, swaggering around. And
sooo down in the dumps later, refusing to
go to bed or eat, just keeps playing and
losing. When he won, he had it all figured
out and when he lost it all, he was totally
baffled. Casinos love guys like that.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
aceofspades
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August 1st, 2012 at 3:22:09 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I've seen it many times. I love the guy who
wins 10 grand at BJ right away and then
loses it and his whole BR later. He's soooo
happy at the start, swaggering around. And
sooo down in the dumps later, refusing to
go to bed or eat, just keeps playing and
losing. When he won, he had it all figured
out and when he lost it all, he was totally
baffled. Casinos love guys like that.





Yeah he had "a system"!!! I think he did not sleep the whole weekend
Although I have experienced the highest highs winning and the lowest
lows losing, I still get my sleep in as you cannot play correctly when you are
sleep deprived. Although, I am not sure if that guy had any *ahem*help staying awake!

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