tringlomane
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December 27th, 2013 at 9:50:30 PM permalink
Quote: Perdition

There have been a ton of spam bots during the early morning hours on ABB. Now the site has been down for pretty much the day. Hopefully they are working to combat the spam issue and didn't get hit with a DDOS or anything.



Ugh.

Quote: mickeycrimm

Alan, by the same token, when you are dealt Aces Full in 10/7 DB the optimal play is to hold just the Three Aces. It's a painful break to make but I did it everytime. And I've made the Four Aces a few times. But others have complained to me of never making Four Aces on that draw.



That's an example I wouldn't chastise others over for not breaking either since it's 10/7 DB. It's only a $2.87 mistake at the five dollar level. Note I am using $5 credits to compare with Alan's story, so don't ask me where the $5 10/7 DB machine is...lol And to be honest, I don't think I have hit 4 Aces when breaking a boat. But my sample size is possibly less than 23 at the casinos... :(

Breaking Aces full on 8/5 Aces & Faces on dollars is a $35.34 mistake in comparison. I understand why Alan did it at the time, but I would have just stared at it for a bit and bitterly accept 40 credits while being well in the hole.
mickeycrimm
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February 28th, 2015 at 1:36:55 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Ugh. That's an example I wouldn't chastise others over for not breaking either since it's 10/7 DB. It's only a $2.87 mistake at the five dollar level. Note I am using $5 credits to compare with Alan's story, so don't ask me where the $5 10/7 DB machine is...lol And to be honest, I don't think I have hit 4 Aces when breaking a boat. But my sample size is possibly less than 23 at the casinos... :(.



It's definitely a high variance draw. But the reason so many have been unsuccessful at it is they just haven't seen the draw that much. It doesn't come around that often. There are only 288 combinations out of 2,598,960 that make Aces Full on the deal. 4 combinations make three Aces and 72 combinations make a pair other than Aces, so 288 combinations.

2598960/288 = 9024.1666. That's how often you will see this hand. If you decide to never break Aces Full then it doesn't cost you much in the long run.

9024.1666 X $25 = a total wager of 225,604.16

$2.87/$225,604.16 = 0.0000127

So not making this break lowers your variance and doesn't slice off much EV in the long run.
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tringlomane
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March 2nd, 2015 at 12:05:29 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

It's definitely a high variance draw. But the reason so many have been unsuccessful at it is they just haven't seen the draw that much. It doesn't come around that often. There are only 288 combinations out of 2,598,960 that make Aces Full on the deal. 4 combinations make three Aces and 72 combinations make a pair other than Aces, so 288 combinations.

2598960/288 = 9024.1666. That's how often you will see this hand. If you decide to never break Aces Full then it doesn't cost you much in the long run.

9024.1666 X $25 = a total wager of 225,604.16

$2.87/$225,604.16 = 0.0000127

So not making this break lowers your variance and doesn't slice off much EV in the long run.



It's funny that you bumped this part now. I actually have converted breaking two pair into 4 Aces twice this year. First two times I can remember. :D. No successful Aces full break yet though. Maybe someday.
MrV
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February 23rd, 2016 at 8:04:02 AM permalink
It would seem that Alan sold his gambling-related website, it is under new ownership and format changes have been made.

It's now called Vegas Casino Talk.
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Boz
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February 23rd, 2016 at 10:17:54 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

It would seem that Alan sold his gambling-related website, it is under new ownership and format changes have been made.

It's now called Vegas Casino Talk.



Guess someone came up with $2500.
Ibeatyouraces
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February 23rd, 2016 at 10:30:42 AM permalink
It's not much different. Basically, Todd (DanDruff) owns it now instead of Alan.
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AxelWolf
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February 23rd, 2016 at 11:29:44 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Guess someone came up with $2500.

Depending what someones plans were I think that was a good deal.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Wizardofnothing
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February 23rd, 2016 at 12:06:06 PM permalink
Dan druff was the mod and one of the main posters anyway- he use to own never win poker.com with Bryan Mican and I think donk down poker also
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Ibeatyouraces
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February 23rd, 2016 at 12:08:23 PM permalink
The drama over there lately has been real entertaining.
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Wizardofnothing
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February 23rd, 2016 at 12:26:52 PM permalink
Funny I was going to say the same things- but honestly the site just only sounds like constant fighting
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