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onenickelmiracle
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March 22nd, 2019 at 12:43:54 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

If you haven't done the patch before.

Be prepaid for some interesting bat sh*t crazy colorful dreams, ones you will likely never forget. 21mg might kick your ass at first. possible Fatigue, dizziness, light headedness, slight nauseousness. It might also burn your skin(suck it up, it's not that bad). If you are really harry, I hope you enjoy a good waxing.

Don't be cheap and buy a cheap brand, they will keep falling off. Seriously, use alcohol or something and clean the area real good before you put it on. If you sweat a lot you will have to figure out how to keep it from coming off. Whatever the recommended time is, be prepared to do each step longer perhaps 2x the recommend time, the last step even longer if need be.

DON'T SMOKE THEM..... cus they are hard to light. Refrain from putting them on your balls, no matter how tempting that might be (-;

Rubbing the patch hard during the 2nd step 14mg when you have a craving seems to help calm the craving.

Don't put the lowest step on as routine after the fist 5 days, only do it if you start craving a cig. Eventually you will just forget to put a new patch on when you wake up, just leave the old one on and rub it from time to time if need be, at some point you will realize you don't really need one. If you do get a sudden craving and you are about to smoke just tell yourselve you will wait 10 min. You will probably forget about it during that time for a while, then just do that over and over.

Keep yourselves busy as much as possible during this time.

You might have to do the patches a few times before it works.



I know people who took Chantix and wellbutrin and that did the trick for them. <<<Sounds scary to me.

Don't try to sue me if you end up in the ER, I'm not a licensed doctor(HOWEVER, I AM A LICENSED DRIVER, that should be enough).

I've used the patch, it's the only thing which has ever stopped the "smoke now" alarms from going off so much. I was doing really good years ago, before I started going allergic with patch because of a painful, rash. I used the cheap ones, doesn't matter now, but the better ones might not be as bad. That's what I buy. I have rubbed them a long time ago when it worked the best, I will have to remember to do that and put them on the other side of my body so I can easier use my right hand to do it.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 12:57:38 PM permalink
I am going to keep the war going, the comments today are motivating me. I'm going to just remember to think of all the ways and motivations I've had and remember to make it through the seconds, minutes, hours and days. I'll miss them driving late at night especially, miss the coffee addiction which warded off heartburn and gas. I may have mentioned this, nicotine helps break down caffeine in the body faster. When you smoke, the caffeine gets flushed through faster, so you can drink more than a non-smoker. A lot of coffee for whatever reason works to eliminate heartburn before it starts. My current diet of food is going to get me. I can't remember the science, a little coffee does damage, a lot prevents it. My guess, you need to drink 8 cup of coffee a day to get this benefit.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 1:09:30 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I am going to keep the war going, the comments today are motivating me. I'm going to just remember to think of all the ways and motivations I've had and remember to make it through the seconds, minutes, hours and days. I'll miss them driving late at night especially, miss the coffee addiction which warded off heartburn and gas. I may have mentioned this, nicotine helps break down caffeine in the body faster. When you smoke, the caffeine gets flushed through faster, so you can drink more than a non-smoker. A lot of coffee for whatever reason works to eliminate heartburn before it starts. My current diet of food is going to get me. I can't remember the science, a little coffee does damage, a lot prevents it. My guess, you need to drink 8 cup of coffee a day to get this benefit.

NVM.

I don't want to put any un-motivated thoughts in your head.

Just keep trying. It can't ever happen unless you try.
Good luck.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 1:16:41 PM permalink
The advice to gradually cut down on the nicotine through the patch or other methods is solid. I smoked one cigarette and quit after that but definitely wanted more after that one. I'd recommend a real gradual cutdown which likely wouldn't be as fast as you want to quit, but a lot more successful.

I've done this with pop before and it's helped immensely. Used to drink six cans a day at my worst and got down to nothing. Then went to one a day, two then three. I've decided to go back down except on long work days.

For me, it looked like this:
Six cans a day for a week.
Five cans a day for a week.
Four cans a day for a week. Etc.

Much less likely to get hit with brutal withdrawal symptoms and it's less of a shock to your system.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 1:38:36 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I am going to keep the war going, the comments today are motivating me. I'm going to just remember to think of all the ways and motivations I've had and remember to make it through the seconds, minutes, hours and days. I'll miss them driving late at night especially, miss the coffee addiction which warded off heartburn and gas. I may have mentioned this, nicotine helps break down caffeine in the body faster. When you smoke, the caffeine gets flushed through faster, so you can drink more than a non-smoker. A lot of coffee for whatever reason works to eliminate heartburn before it starts. My current diet of food is going to get me. I can't remember the science, a little coffee does damage, a lot prevents it. My guess, you need to drink 8 cup of coffee a day to get this benefit.

See, the thing about quitting this shit is, you only have to quit 15 minutes at a time. You don't have to quit for a week, or a month or a year. You only have to quit for 15 **** minutes. You can do that, right? You've done that in airports and other places and it wasn't a big deal. So just quit for 15 minutes, fight this monster in smaller increments. If you have to, just quit for 5 minutes at a time. You can almost hold your breath for 5 minutes. Just fight it a little bit at at time.
It's also easier if you don't get up in the morning and "just have one" or quit at noon or some such. When you wake up in the morning, you already have 5-8 hours without a fix. You already have quit for 5-8 hours.
Withdrawals comes in waves, like standing on a beach and the waves lap, lap, lap on your feet. And about every 7th wave is a big yucky "flush" that about knocks you down, but it only lasts a really short time. It won't be like that the rest of your life, just a few minutes, then the tide will pull that wave back out, and the next 7th wave doesn't come in as far.

Then after you recognize that the fight is only 15 minutes at a time, build it up to an hour. One hour at a time, you can do that, you've already done it, several times. And you've noticed some of your other senses are becoming stronger, you can smell better, food is better. You can breathe deeper, and hold it longer. You can do things without having to plan for a nicotine escape.

When you've been free for a couple months, you will glance at the car next to you and see some poor sob, smoking, and recognize what that suffering addict is going through.

And at some point it occurs to you, that an addict isn't taking the next hit because he likes his doc [drug of choice] he is taking the next fix, so he doesn't get sick.

My contention is, it isn't the downwinders or the family's that suffer the most, and hate addictive substances the worst, but it is the addicts themselves that hate their doc, for having so much control over their lives.

Nobody hates opiods worse, than an addict that has had a relapse.

You might consider keeping a journal of this coming pilgrimage? They are fun to go back and read.

Oh, I almost forgot, eventually you get to "one day at a time". And that's how we all live.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 1:54:55 PM permalink
Good stuff from petro.

Not for nothin', but I found weaning to be counterproductive. "The clock" became another trigger. Instead of the random urge to use, I was now voluntarily putting it my own mind, forcing myself to think about it. As petro said, it comes in waves. And instead of living in that time in the trough, I sat and waited and counted down to the next wave.

Just food for thought.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 2:34:37 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I am going to keep the war going, the comments today are motivating me. I'm going to just remember to think of all the ways and motivations I've had and remember to make it through the seconds, minutes, hours and days. I'll miss them driving late at night especially, miss the coffee addiction which warded off heartburn and gas. I may have mentioned this, nicotine helps break down caffeine in the body faster. When you smoke, the caffeine gets flushed through faster, so you can drink more than a non-smoker. A lot of coffee for whatever reason works to eliminate heartburn before it starts. My current diet of food is going to get me. I can't remember the science, a little coffee does damage, a lot prevents it. My guess, you need to drink 8 cup of coffee a day to get this benefit.



Uh, it seems that you may potentially end up addicted to coffee. :/
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March 22nd, 2019 at 4:51:27 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Then after you recognize that the fight is only 15 minutes at a time, build it up to an hour.



Mental strategies are interesting, and can completely flip your outlook in some cases.

On a school trip in high school we went to Six Flags over Georgia, and a girl I was with was scared of rollercoasters. I remember managing to convince her that her feeling of fear was actually excitement. And excitement was fun, not scary. After that, she rode the coaster 8 times with me, and in fact wanted to ride it the last 2 times even though I was ready to move on. Somehow, got her perception totally flipped.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 6:31:08 PM permalink
Find something HEALTHY to replace the Cigarettes, that won't become as addictive and life threatening as Cigarettes, try something like Yoga, jogging, playing with animals in the park, swimming, biking, etc. :)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 23rd, 2019 at 4:45:10 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Find something HEALTHY to replace the Cigarettes, that won't become as addictive and life threatening as Cigarettes, try something like Yoga, jogging, playing with animals in the park, swimming, biking, etc. :)

Nobody thinks that way, obviously these substitutes aren't as desirable as something bad for you. Shouldn't be like this, but the nicotine patch acts like a sedative sometimes, I just stayed in bed a very long time. I am sleep deprived, so could probably use the rest. I will probably keep it up even though I'm really tempted right now to go find a smoke. I had this finished a month or two ago and had quit a couple weeks, sucks it fell apart.
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