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March 16th, 2020 at 11:59:54 AM permalink
I have a friend who works in a hospital and told me the following:

If you come in with the virus then you report it, get paid for not working, keep your mortgage, etc. While I'd definitely say that this a good thing if you come in with a broken leg then to bad..no special benefits for you.
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March 16th, 2020 at 12:05:15 PM permalink
A broken leg won't kill someone else.
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March 16th, 2020 at 12:21:08 PM permalink
If you come in with this same virus this time next year, no one is going to do anything for you like that, because it will be assumed you didn't opt to take the vaccine.

Right now, we're all in the same boat.
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March 16th, 2020 at 12:30:20 PM permalink
That policy seems like a good idea to me. There are things like sick leave and unemployment for the broken leg.
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March 16th, 2020 at 12:30:53 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

I have a friend who works in a hospital and told me the following:

If you come in with the virus then you report it, get paid for not working, keep your mortgage, etc. While I'd definitely say that this a good thing if you come in with a broken leg then to bad..no special benefits for you.



Someone is not telling the truth.
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March 16th, 2020 at 1:41:25 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Someone is not telling the truth.



I met someone last night who said he was an EMT and he was tested for COVID19 every time he came to the hospital.
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March 16th, 2020 at 2:47:49 PM permalink
Tested for the virus, or had his temperature taken?
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March 16th, 2020 at 2:49:39 PM permalink
Quote: Calder

Tested for the virus, or had his temperature taken?

He said he kept testing negative, so the virus.
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March 16th, 2020 at 2:51:49 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

I have a friend who works in a hospital and told me the following:

If you come in with the virus then you report it, get paid for not working, keep your mortgage, etc. While I'd definitely say that this a good thing if you come in with a broken leg then to bad..no special benefits for you.

People who did this would be found out and probably get it later. I know it's not true per se, once you have it, you have it, because you can catch it again. It's a virus our bodies aren't well at getting rid of, people can read it themselves.
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March 16th, 2020 at 2:58:32 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

I have a friend who works in a hospital and told me the following:

If you come in with the virus then you report it, get paid for not working, keep your mortgage, etc. While I'd definitely say that this a good thing if you come in with a broken leg then to bad..no special benefits for you.



There are very few workplaces that are offering paid time off for this illness, but do not offer any other paid time off benefits. I would be willing to bet that this hospital is not in that extreme minority. Even if this hospital gives zero paid time off benefits for any other sickness or personal reason, they still need to comply with FMLA (assuming an American hospital). From what I've heard coronavirus quarantines are around two weeks. If someone would be unable to keep their mortgage due to taking two weeks off from work, most people would see the main problem as being that they bought something they couldn't afford.
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March 16th, 2020 at 3:02:28 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

He said he kept testing negative, so the virus....


That seems quick.

What's the current turnaround time for test results?
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March 16th, 2020 at 3:13:29 PM permalink
Quote: Calder

That seems quick.

What's the current turnaround time for test results?



Fastest I've heard is Trumps, where he claims he took the test late Friday night and was cleared early Sat. morning.
Its ridiculous to think anyone is tested each time they enter a hospital. Just use some common sense and do the math. Hundreds of hospital employees, dozens of EMTs, ect, ect.
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March 16th, 2020 at 3:26:23 PM permalink
Quote: Calder

That seems quick.

What's the current turnaround time for test results?



Fastest one is down to 15 minutes now. A week ago I think it was like 3-4 hours.
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March 16th, 2020 at 3:37:46 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Fastest I've heard is Trumps, where he claims he took the test late Friday night and was cleared early Sat. morning.
Its ridiculous to think anyone is tested each time they enter a hospital. Just use some common sense and do the math. Hundreds of hospital employees, dozens of EMTs, ect, ect.

He was a really serious person, a casino employee, and worked as a fire fighter/emt when not there. Big picture, I assume mostly true. The details perhaps from me retelling a story are the problem I'd say, lost in translation.
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March 16th, 2020 at 3:41:17 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

I have a friend who works in a hospital and told me the following:

If you come in with the virus then you report it, get paid for not working, keep your mortgage, etc. While I'd definitely say that this a good thing if you come in with a broken leg then to bad..no special benefits for you.

Can you please stop starting so many different threads about this? I Have no issues with your content, I would like to hear what you have to say, I just really prefer not to have to click on 50 different threads in order to read it.
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March 16th, 2020 at 6:17:31 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

I have a friend who works in a hospital and told me the following:

If you come in with the virus then you report it, get paid for not working, keep your mortgage, etc. While I'd definitely say that this a good thing if you come in with a broken leg then to bad..no special benefits for you.



You don't even have to have the virus.

If you claim to have been traveling in a high risk area, or claim to have potential contact with an infected person, you are required to self quarantine for 14 days.

This is a public safety issue, a broken leg does not put others at risk. If you break your leg that is what sick time is for (which I guarantee your friend accrues if he works for a hospital).

Where I work if you are at risk (from potential exposure or travel) you are required to self-quarantine for 14 days after returning home (you have to use your sick days, you don't get special leave....) This is the standard requirement I believe in pretty much every government position and most medical positions.

Really Every Employer that is not a work from home employer should require this (if there is a chance for direct or indirect contact with anyone other than yourself). But, really only governments and many medical employers seem to actually enforcing it.

I think restaurants should be forced to enforce it, but that would be politically unpopular.....

See CDC for more guidance:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/after-travel-precautions.html
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March 16th, 2020 at 7:02:07 PM permalink
I can sum up the Corona Virus.

Who cares? You live or you die those are the only two outcomes. We are all going to die so what does it matter if it is tomorrow or 30 years?
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March 16th, 2020 at 7:22:57 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I can sum up the Corona Virus.

Who cares? You live or you die those are the only two outcomes. We are all going to die so what does it matter if it is tomorrow or 30 years?



You can't take your money with you either. Send us a blank check before you go.
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March 17th, 2020 at 12:22:23 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I can sum up the Corona Virus.

Who cares? You live or you die those are the only two outcomes. We are all going to die so what does it matter if it is tomorrow or 30 years?



That's almost like saying there is 50/50 chance you'll be struck by lightning the moment you exit your house, you either will or you won't or what does it matter if you decide to take a bath with your toaster positioned on the edge of the bathtub, we're all going to die eventually so what the big deal is.
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March 17th, 2020 at 1:27:31 AM permalink
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You can't take your money with you either. Send us a blank check before you go.

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March 17th, 2020 at 7:23:48 AM permalink
Quote: rawtuff

That's almost like saying there is 50/50 chance you'll be struck by lightning the moment you exit your house, you either will or you won't or what does it matter if you decide to take a bath with your toaster positioned on the edge of the bathtub, we're all going to die eventually so what the big deal is.



Exactly. Unless you have a belief that you will never die the outcome is the same.
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March 17th, 2020 at 8:10:31 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Exactly. Unless you have a belief that you will never die the outcome is the same.



No it isn't. I can accomplish a lot more in 30 years than I can in one day. It 100% matters when I die.
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March 17th, 2020 at 10:31:29 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

No it isn't. I can accomplish a lot more in 30 years than I can in one day. It 100% matters when I die.



The point is we are all insignificant. There is a 99.9999% chance that what you accomplish will be irrelevant to the future of mankind. I understand you want to live longer to "help" those that are important to you, but what does it matter? You are just prolonging the inevitable. Your family, your kids, your grandkids are all going to die.

Until one can define what the purpose of mankind is, it doesn't matter, Why propogate the misery to future generations.

I would not be upset at all if mankind ended this generation. At least we could brag about being the last generation.
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March 17th, 2020 at 10:43:18 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

The point is we are all insignificant. There is a 99.9999% chance that what you accomplish will be irrelevant to the future of mankind.



That's not the metric I use to make decisions, so it is irrelevant to my day to day life.

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I understand you want to live longer to "help" those that are important to you, but what does it matter?



Because I enjoy living.

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You are just prolonging the inevitable. Your family, your kids, your grandkids are all going to die.



Agreed. What is the argument you're trying to make here?

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Until one can define what the purpose of mankind is, it doesn't matter, Why propogate the misery to future generations.



Who says mankind has to have a purpose? Even if we say it does, ending with this generation will not help us define it, so you're kind of arguing against your own point here. Using your logic, we should be trying to extend our lives as much as possible, and humanity by extension, so we can figure out what our purpose is.
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March 17th, 2020 at 11:09:04 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu


Who says mankind has to have a purpose?



If there is a purpose, tell me what
it is beyond procreation. Life has
no purpose outside itself, that's
the point. It's we who give life
purpose, none is built in. There
is no destiny, there is no 'meant
to be'.. (trying to keep this in
the guidelines of no religXXX
talk.)
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March 17th, 2020 at 2:24:33 PM permalink
There is a best selling book that answers all these questions.
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March 17th, 2020 at 2:35:52 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

There is a best selling book that answers all these questions.



I only read non-fiction.
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March 17th, 2020 at 4:56:07 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I only read non-fiction.


Then you should read it.
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