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January 15th, 2020 at 12:44:28 PM permalink
Did you notice that for 23 out of 24 Daily Doubles, the maximum value was wagered -- 21 "all-ins" and two 1,000 point max wagers where the contestants had less than 1,000 at the time?

The only one that wasn't a max bet or a "True Daily Double" was Ken's wager on the first DD of the last Double Jeopardy in Match #4. I think Ken was trying to protect his lead and only wagered 5,000 of his 8,800 points.
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January 15th, 2020 at 12:45:30 PM permalink
Thank you for the corrections. I'm curious to know what the actual figures were.

At the end of it all, the one who really made out was BBB's pony. He picked up place money, just for standing in the gate.
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January 15th, 2020 at 2:06:49 PM permalink
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Thank you for the corrections. I'm curious to know what the actual figures were.

At the end of it all, the one who really made out was BBB's pony. He picked up place money, just for standing in the gate.



Likely an unfair judgement on him, despite his poor DD performance. When you're as elite as the 3 of them, it comes down to buzzer speed, which is both an art and a skill.

In my case, but also for a couple hundred other contestants I now know with similar stats, I knew 49. I got to win the buzz 15 times, and was beaten to the buzz 34 times. I found zero DDs, but was fully prepared to bet the maximum on any I did find.

Brad had similar or worse stats in ringins. Idk what he would claim about how much of the ones he didn't get to answer he knew, but I would guess it was in excess of 90%.

I don't have a better answer on how to do it. It is what it is, and the format works. But definitely the buzzer timing is a major component of success.

Edit to fix a typo. I didn't get to answer 34 times, not 24.
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January 15th, 2020 at 4:55:52 PM permalink
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I was surprised Ken left himself open to be caught by not betting anything on the second Final Jeopardy. Do you think he did it:
A) To extend the game,
B) He thought he would miss it.
C) He thought James would miss it.



He answered this question on Twitter today.

Quote: @KenJennings

Getting asked a lot today about the $0 wager in Final Jeopardy last night. A small wager is typically the right play from second place in a tight game, as this piece explains.



https://slate.com/culture/2020/01/jeopardy-goat-tournament-ken-jennings-james-holzhauer-winning-strategy

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Holzhauer led the game 44,000 to 23,000 going into Final Jeopardy. Jennings assumed that Holzhauer would get Final Jeopardy correct (he usually does) and that he’d risk it all—which he had to in order to overcome the deficit from the earlier game. If both assumptions proved true, Holzhauer would have ended up with 88,000 for the game. Even if Jennings did the same and racked up 46,000, Holzhauer would still win the two-game match (more than making up for the 31,419 point deficit from Game 1), tying the tournament at 2–2 and forcing another night of play. So the only circumstance in which Jennings could win the overall match and clinch the tournament Tuesday night was if Holzhauer bet it all and was wrong. In that case, Jennings simply needed to keep what he had already accumulated and he would win. That’s precisely what happened. The capstone was that Holzhauer missed a tough Final Jeopardy clue. Jennings nailed it.

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January 15th, 2020 at 11:45:50 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

He answered this question on Twitter today....

Here is the correct link in the above spoiler (or just add ".html" ) (it's a good read) :
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January 16th, 2020 at 7:57:59 AM permalink
I watched the last show -very difficult questions. I am proud that I did come up with the answer to the last Final Jeopardy question (I had never heard it before and had to figure it out in real time.)

Amongst Shakespearean tragedies, which character not named in the title of a play has the most lines? Answer: Who is Iago? I was also considering 'Who is Mark Anthony?' I'm proud that I got one that James Holzhauer missed.
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January 16th, 2020 at 3:19:45 PM permalink
The three competitors were engaged in playful smacktalk on Twitter for the last few weeks. Jeopardy champ Pam Mueller got in the mix with this observation regarding Match 4:

Quote: Pam Mueller

@James_Holzhauer talks a lot of smack for someone who lost the #JeopardyGOAT on a Final Jeopardy! that was his own name 🤔😉



Iago is Spanish for James.
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January 16th, 2020 at 5:29:06 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I watched the last show -very difficult questions. I am proud that I did come up with the answer to the last Final Jeopardy question (I had never heard it before and had to figure it out in real time.)

Amongst Shakespearean tragedies, which character not named in the title of a play has the most lines? Answer: Who is Iago? I was also considering 'Who is Mark Anthony?' I'm proud that I got one that James Holzhauer missed.



My first thought was Iago, but I talked myself out of it, figured it was somebody from Hamlet, and would have said Laertes

Also, technically Marc Antony is in the title of a Shakespeare play - Antony & Cleopatra; the answer didn't say that it was a character whose name was in the title of that particular play.

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January 18th, 2020 at 12:49:55 PM permalink
Sorry if this was posted.

Ken Jennings
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You need to find this exact second and for me it's just following the rhythm of Alex's voice," he said. "You just know how he's gonna say it, there's gonna be one beat and then you buzz -- it's kind of a zen thing."

Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
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January 18th, 2020 at 6:52:55 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Quote: gordonm888

I watched the last show -very difficult questions. I am proud that I did come up with the answer to the last Final Jeopardy question (I had never heard it before and had to figure it out in real time.)

Amongst Shakespearean tragedies, which character not named in the title of a play has the most lines? Answer: Who is Iago? I was also considering 'Who is Mark Anthony?' I'm proud that I got one that James Holzhauer missed.



My first thought was Iago, but I talked myself out of it, figured it was somebody from Hamlet, and would have said Laertes

Also, technically Marc Antony is in the title of a Shakespeare play - Antony & Cleopatra; the answer didn't say that it was a character whose name was in the title of that particular play.



LOL, you are correct and I didn't think of that. Very good Don!
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