Romes
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November 24th, 2015 at 7:11:35 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

This will not be popular but I think they will eventually require a player card for free drinks and that they will be debited from your account in some manner. If a persons "drink account" goes negative they will then charge you. The "drink account" balance will increase as you gamble.

That reminds me an awful lot about one of Missions articles on how the VP machines will determine when you can have a drink. After so long they'll spit you out a drink ticket. I think that model sounds more efficient, but in the end is just another penny pinching ploy to try to shave as much cost as possible to yet again try to up profits... and in the end it will just deter more and more customers from even coming, costing profits and more exec jobs to start the cycle all over again.

My goodness people are stupid. I don't understand how the people that run these companies function and make it through the day.
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HeyMrDJ
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November 24th, 2015 at 7:14:53 AM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

I'm surprised they don't get rid of bottled beer too, that's gotta be a killer.



Bottled beer? You sure?

In the UK you can buy 12 corona from a supermarket for £12
The casinos must be able to get them for $1 or less, if they just paid the waitress a real wage and kept the $1 tip they would be just fine. They seem to think that punishing the players is the correct strategy, yet the waitresses at Aria must be walking out the door with $150,000 a year each!

10 drinks on a tray, 8 trays an hour, 8 hour shift, 5 days a week, 48 weeks of the year = $153,600 and there must be days where they exceed this. The poker room waitresses do not stop. That doesnt even allow for food tips, or people who tip more than $1.
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Joeman
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November 24th, 2015 at 7:25:35 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

My goodness people are stupid. I don't understand how the people that run these companies function and make it through the day.

I think this has been asked before, but aren't comped drinks for gamblers +EV for the house? Doesn't the extra revenue from buzzed (or worse) patrons offset the cost of the liquor?
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RonC
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November 24th, 2015 at 7:54:26 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

I think this has been asked before, but aren't comped drinks for gamblers +EV for the house? Doesn't the extra revenue from buzzed (or worse) patrons offset the cost of the liquor?



Sad to say, I've made my worst gambling decisions (and the best for the house, naturally) when I forgot to control how much I drank. I do much better now, but a lot of people never get that lesson. I would say providing drinks--even once a bit more expensive than the well brands--is a huge positive for the house.

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MrV
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November 24th, 2015 at 8:04:30 AM permalink
Here's a thought: would it be legal to allow casinos to have an an in-house doctor whose duties include prescribing / supplying pain killers such as oxy or percocet to players?

That would certainly loosen them up and cause them to throw caution to the winds while gambling.

I initially thought it would never happen due to potential liability concerns, but it hasn't stopped them from doling out liquor.
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HeyMrDJ
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November 24th, 2015 at 8:14:38 AM permalink
I am also pretty sure that the law in the UK is that casinos are not allowed to provide free drinks because players make poor choices. Lets be honest, if Vegas could start over again they wouldnt offer free drinks or free hotel rooms to anyone but the biggest players. We'd also probably not see 6:5 blackjack.... or resort fees....
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sabre
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November 24th, 2015 at 8:29:11 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

I think this has been asked before, but aren't comped drinks for gamblers +EV for the house? Doesn't the extra revenue from buzzed (or worse) patrons offset the cost of the liquor?



Yeah, but drinks patrons pay for are even more +EV for the house. The issue is you have a lot of people in Vegas casinos that don't have a problem paying $20 for 2 well drinks. Going out of your way to comp that person is not in the casinos best interest.

The thing that worries me is if casinos start following Steve Wynn's route of not comping drinks at the bar for video poker play. So far that doesn't seem to have happened, but this ticket experiment at the Mirage has me worried.
Joeman
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November 24th, 2015 at 8:55:06 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

Yeah, but drinks patrons pay for are even more +EV for the house. The issue is you have a lot of people in Vegas casinos that don't have a problem paying $20 for 2 well drinks. Going out of your way to comp that person is not in the casinos best interest

I agree that this is the case for many folks. The thing is, I see people who normally don't drink much, but because "it's free," they'll have a few at the casino. I also think that some of those who might pay $20 for 2 drinks might have 4 instead, if they were free.

For me personally, it's kind of the same. In the mid-west casinos, I'm happy to get my own free sodas and not drink. But in Vegas or MS, if you'll bring me a free CC & Diet Coke, I'm happy to drink it!
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aceofspades
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November 24th, 2015 at 9:23:12 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Here's a thought: would it be legal to allow casinos to have an an in-house doctor whose duties include prescribing / supplying pain killers such as oxy or percocet to players?

That would certainly loosen them up and cause them to throw caution to the winds while gambling.

I initially thought it would never happen due to potential liability concerns, but it hasn't stopped them from doling out liquor.


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Caesars Palace did this to Mr. Watanabe - and he sued
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MrV
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November 24th, 2015 at 10:59:37 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Caesars Palace did this to Mr. Watanabe - and he sued



That case was resolved by confidential settlement, so there's no precedent to look at.

Given the way society is loosening restrictions on drugs, e.g. MMJ / recreational marijuana, I can foresee a scenario where the great state of Nevada might pass a statute or regulation which allows casinos to either allow on site doctors or LPNs to prescribe and dispense, or dispense if the patron has a valid prescription.

A long shot, certainly, but then again who would have dreamed states would allow and tax marijuana sales?

The law must evolve as society evolves, and there are millions of folks taking pain meds, so the demand is there.

For many it is a better buzz than booze, in addition to its medicinal benefits.

Having them available at a casino would be mutually beneficial.

But no, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
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