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DJTeddyBear
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October 9th, 2011 at 3:38:48 AM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

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And it's not Flash, actually -- it's Javascript.

Yeah, I probably would have said that if I typed slower.

My point remains though. As a sample / tutorial, it's confusing - particularly since it resulted in no change.
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Paigowdan
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October 9th, 2011 at 4:39:17 AM permalink
Minor Java thingy to clean up that should not affect the game or performance. The simulator makes the game look fun and playable. I spend time playing it there, instead of games at www.bored.com, etc., it is that good. The game, that is, and the simulator is fine enough.

People voted they love it after playing it on your simulator. If people voted negatively (it's a dog/nothing special), then that would be a bad sign for the game. Didn't happen.

Casinos already use tiles of Asian Tiles/Pai Gow Tiles (aka "Pai Gow non-poker").
Granted, BJ and craps are very established and known...
- but for Asian Markets (California, East Coast) an Easy to play tiles game should be a hit because:
1. Some Asian tile players find old-school Pai Gow tiles a bit rough, slow, and old school, and
2. A new and easy to play tile-based game for the Asian market - one that anyone could jump into and catch on right away, UNLIKE Pai Gow Tiles - should be a hit.
3. The name "Twist it!" is slightly lame, IMHO. It sounds like a 1960's parlor game ("twister") or an opening for a rude comment ("I lost bad - and I had my Chicken McNuggets Twisted on Twist it"). Name it something like "Hong Kong Tiles" or "EZ Tiles" might be a good idea.
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NowTheSerpent
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October 9th, 2011 at 9:07:28 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Minor Java thingy to clean up that should not affect the game or performance. The simulator makes the game look fun and playable. I spend time playing it there, instead of games at www.bored.com, etc., it is that good. The game, that is, and the simulator is fine enough.

The name "Twist it!" is slightly lame, IMHO. It sounds like a 1960's parlor game ("twister") or an opening for a rude comment ("I lost bad - and I had my Chicken McNuggets Twisted on Twist it"). Name it something like "Hong Kong Tiles" or "EZ Tiles" might be a good idea.



How about "Casino Dominoes"?
NowTheSerpent
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October 9th, 2011 at 9:07:29 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

The name "Twist it!" is slightly lame, IMHO. It sounds like a 1960's parlor game ("twister") or an opening for a rude comment ("I lost bad - and I had my Chicken McNuggets Twisted on Twist it"). Name it something like "Hong Kong Tiles" or "EZ Tiles" might be a good idea.



How about "Casino Dominoes"?
DJTeddyBear
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October 9th, 2011 at 11:41:10 AM permalink
Quote: NowTheSerpent

How about "Casino Dominoes"?

That will make people think of "Casino War." while that stays very true to the original game, it's still a stupid game. This dominoes game is nothing like the traditional game so the 'Casino' moniker should be avoided.

If you're looking for a different name, I'd suggest "Domino Flips" or something like that.
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October 9th, 2011 at 4:47:53 PM permalink
I agree that the name Twist'em wouldn't have been my first choice. It is not terrible, doesn't tell you much about the game (i.e. dominos are used, form two hands, goal of game is to get both hands as close to 9 as possible, etc.).

I don't know that I have any great ideas to help. But here are some random thoughts:

The best score is 9 and game uses baccarat scoring system. "Domino Baccarat"....I hate that one because bacc is already a mysterious game to many and now you are introducing a new device to an already misunderstood game to the westerners.

You are dealt three dominos so I guess there could be a "Three Domino XXXXXX". Or maybe it is just "Three Dominos".....that seems like it would be the name of an easy game to learn even if I don't know much about dominos.

You do twist or flip the dominos during play.....I like the term flip versus twist if you use one of those but again not sure the action tells you much about the game.

You have a high and low hand like Pai Gow Poker, but Pai Gow already has the original "tiles" game so there needs to be differentiation there. "American Pai Gow" or "Western Pai Gow" or "Domino Pai Gow".

Don't know if there is anything above that generates anything better than Twist 'Em. Good luck with it ME.....I do like the base game, but agree with others that the side bet needs a higher hit rate. To me this is a better game than Shuffle Masters "Money Market" @ G2E.....who needs another way to play poker?
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October 9th, 2011 at 5:19:55 PM permalink
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Nice game. Question for you-- since the dealers house way is to always set highest possible hand first, shouldn't the player, who will lose on the 2 copy hands, do the opposite? If I can play 7 7 instead of 8 6 it seems I should, as that will double copy less frequently. Also, what did you figure the house edge to be, or asked another way, how often do you get double copies? And what is the house edge on your bonus bet? Good luck. If Casino War can make it, I see no reason your game can't. It is simple enough. And appears to be a low house edge game.



Hey ME- you hurt my feelings not answering my questions...
DJTeddyBear
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October 9th, 2011 at 6:15:30 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

You have a high and low hand like Pai Gow Poker, but Pai Gow already has the original "tiles" game so there needs to be differentiation there. "American Pai Gow" or "Western Pai Gow" or "Domino Pai Gow".

I like the first 2 options. For the record, the tiles used in Pai Gow are also sometimes called Dominoes.
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MathExtremist
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October 9th, 2011 at 7:09:44 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Hey ME- you hurt my feelings not answering my questions...


Sorry about that - I missed it. The short answer is that the player's best play depends on the tiles in the hand and not just which ways are available to set. I don't yet have a simplified player strategy done. I have the optimal strategy in a spreadsheet, of course, since that's how I determined what the EV was. The optimal EV depends on how many tiles you use, too -- the game can be offered with a full double-six set (0.89% EV) or double-five set without the six tiles (1.89% EV). In both cases, the EV when the player copies the house way is approximately 3.3%. N.b. compare that to blackjack, where if you copy the house way you'll get killed.

And I'm not tied to either the name or the bonus structure. I picked Twist'em because it reminded me of Hold'em and it's easy to say. As far as the bonus, I did that structure because I got feedback that a progressive-type bonus would be interesting, and the chances of the top award are about 1 in 54,000 which is long enough. Do you think it would work better if I dropped the lowest payout and just had pays for 4/5/6 doubles? The pays could be a *lot* higher that way, but the overall hit rate wouldn't be nearly as high. I also had a bonus bet based on either the player, dealer, or both getting 9/9 totals, but that's not capable of generating progressive-style odds. But I'm open to other ideas for the bonus bet.

Thanks for the feedback.
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October 9th, 2011 at 7:54:50 PM permalink
Hi-Lo Domino or Hi-Low Dominoes, Helps explain the game a little. Especially if signage is used ??

Still wondering if anybody knows of any video on line showing Tiles being dealt. Only Pai Gow Poker videos I find are dealt with cards ?

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