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Buzzard
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February 13th, 2014 at 8:14:18 AM permalink
Nothing succeeds like success. May this be the start of something BIG !
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caddyJack
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February 28th, 2014 at 2:44:57 PM permalink
Congratulations! How is the launch going so far?

I'm a Kirkland resident myself and will have to go check this out. Paradigm/Lucky - you guys are in the Kirkland area I assume?
Paradigm
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February 28th, 2014 at 3:52:03 PM permalink
Thanks Caddy! Actually I am in CA and Lucky is in TX.....bit of a long story on how we are getting installs in WA :-).

The game is being well received at Casino Caribbean, but would love to hear what the dealers tell you if you ask them.

I believe the Lucky Stiff BJ table is open Thurs-Sat, but they will open it at other times if you to ask.

I shouid be at Casino Caribbean on Sunday around midday as I am up in WA this weekend for a different install. You can PM me if you want to try and connect while I am there.
AcesAndEights
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February 28th, 2014 at 4:03:42 PM permalink
Has the Wizard done an analysis on this bet yet? I can't find it over at WoO. I am looking for the house edge, which I'm sure has been posted somewhere on a thread here, but I can't find it :).
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Lucky
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February 28th, 2014 at 4:29:02 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Has the Wizard done an analysis on this bet yet? I can't find it over at WoO. I am looking for the house edge, which I'm sure has been posted somewhere on a thread here, but I can't find it :).


Hi Aces. No, the Wizard hasn't posted an analysis yet, but the house edge for the paytable being played in WA is 4.05%.
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Paradigm
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February 28th, 2014 at 5:17:22 PM permalink
Quote: Lucky

Hi Aces. No, the Wizard hasn't posted an analysis yet, but the house edge for the paytable being played in WA is 4.05%.


And I would add that the top pay of 10-1 occurs about once every 59 hands, so unlike a lot of side bets out there that rely on the 1 in 500 hand event occurring and adding 5-7% to the Return to Player calculation for the rare event, you are actually going to be experiencing the 4.05% HE provided you play at least 60 hands of BJ per session (subject to variance of course).

Here is Stephen How's analysis of Lucky Stiff: Lucky Stiff - Discount Gambling

He calculates an overall HE on both the main and side bet combined.

Charles Mousseau did the math and 4.05% is the proper stand alone HE. However, due to a couple of differences in basic strategy between the main bet and Lucky Stiff, using Basic BJ strategy, the experienced HE on Lucky Stiff inches up to 4.35% from the optimal 4.05%
AcesAndEights
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March 3rd, 2014 at 10:37:56 AM permalink
What happens to your Lucky Stiff side bet if you start with a stiff hand and surrender your hand? I.e. player 16 vs dealer 10 up.
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Lucky
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March 3rd, 2014 at 11:16:41 AM permalink
Lucky Stiff rules do not allow surrender.
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AcesAndEights
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March 3rd, 2014 at 11:46:24 AM permalink
Quote: Lucky

Lucky Stiff rules do not allow surrender.


Right, so what happens to your Lucky Stiff bet? Does it push? Do you lose it?

I know the answer, I'm just being unnecessarily pedantic because I like everything spelled out with no ambiguity :).
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Lucky
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March 3rd, 2014 at 12:09:36 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Right, so what happens to your Lucky Stiff bet? Does it push? Do you lose it?

I know the answer, I'm just being unnecessarily pedantic because I like everything spelled out with no ambiguity :).


Surrender is an excluded rule for Lucky Stiff, so it would not apply for the main bet or side bet. Does that not spell it out for you clearly enough? But I suppose an operator could allow it, but don't get 'pedantic' on me and expect the precise mathematical effect in such a case, whether the Lucky Stiff bet loses or pushes.
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