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October 17th, 2021 at 8:41:59 AM permalink
Full house should be there. I missed that. Post edited to reflect that. Thanks!
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October 17th, 2021 at 8:44:27 AM permalink
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Can you confirm that you don't get a wheel for a dealt Full House? I don't see it listed in your OP.

Anyway, if you want the overall odds of getting a dealt wheel, just take one and divide it by the cumulative probabilities of the dealt hands needed.
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Yes, thatís the easy part and what I did. Also, I fixed the OP. Full house should be there.
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October 17th, 2021 at 8:54:38 AM permalink
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That sounds like either Deal Draw or Double Pay
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I think Double Pay is the one I am thinking of...my mistake. I must have missed it in the list here:

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/basics/#return-tables

Fortunately, I found the other one. I think I missed Double Pay because I was expecting it to be called, "Deal Draw," which is what I think the game I saw in AC was called, but couldn't swear to it.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 17th, 2021 at 8:55:43 AM permalink
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Quote: Mission146

Can you confirm that you don't get a wheel for a dealt Full House? I don't see it listed in your OP.

Anyway, if you want the overall odds of getting a dealt wheel, just take one and divide it by the cumulative probabilities of the dealt hands needed.
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Yes, thatís the easy part and what I did. Also, I fixed the OP. Full house should be there.
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By all means, post the result please! When I saw that you were online, I figured you would do it and post it.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 17th, 2021 at 9:16:34 AM permalink
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Quote: Mission146

Can you confirm that you don't get a wheel for a dealt Full House? I don't see it listed in your OP.

Anyway, if you want the overall odds of getting a dealt wheel, just take one and divide it by the cumulative probabilities of the dealt hands needed.
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Yes, thatís the easy part and what I did. Also, I fixed the OP. Full house should be there.
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By all means, post the result please! When I saw that you were online, I figured you would do it and post it.
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Deuces is a wheel every 21 deals on average as opposed to every 35 in Jacks or Better variants. This must mean the wheel weights are different for Deuces, I think.
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October 17th, 2021 at 10:16:56 AM permalink
Probably true, but then the probability of each type of wheel might also be relevant.
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October 17th, 2021 at 10:46:24 AM permalink
No doubt. This trip down the rabbit hole has me discovering an initially counter intuitive thing about deuces is that itís more likely one gets dealt a 4 of a kind than a full house or a straight.
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October 17th, 2021 at 11:00:03 AM permalink
The straight might be a bit counterintuitive, but I donít think the Full House one is.

A Deuces FH basically only occurs by way of a natural Full House without any deuces or a natural Two Pair (neither two of the pairs can be deuces) with a deuce.
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October 17th, 2021 at 1:23:49 PM permalink
Ah, crap. Itís flush and FH thatís less likely, not straight. Same logic applies to that, no doubt.
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October 17th, 2021 at 1:57:49 PM permalink
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Ah, crap. Itís flush and FH thatís less likely, not straight. Same logic applies to that, no doubt.
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Dealt Flush becomes much more likely than standard Video Poker, but basically the same logic on quads. You could look at dealt trips with a deuce anywhere in it (which becomes quads) as a combinatorial problem that I might do next time Iím on a proper computer. Beyond that, two pair with deuces becomes quadsÖthree deuces dealt is quads worst case scenarioó-etc.

Itís really just how likely dealt quads becomes, more than anything.
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