Gamblers Bonus All 13 Quads

Bob Dancer's current column talks about a past play that included "a bonus system where every time you hit a natural four of a kind — or a five-of-a-kind with exactly one deuce — your card got marked electronically. If you could get all 13 ranks in few enough hands, you could earn up to $50,000. After 10,000 or so hands, the $50,000 would start to decrease, depending on your denomination. It would end up at $39 if enough hands passed before you scored all 13 ranks."

One of the comments follow: "Interesting. Completing a set of quads was sort of like a reverse progressive. Evidently, this concept is still around, but just on poorer base games? Is that right? Could you give a little more detail? Were there just a few step-down levels or did the amount to win just drop almost continuously little by little? Were you actually able to win 10,000 coins (in this case $5 coins) by completing the set within 10,000 hands? That seems like it would be likely to occur once in a while, perhaps roughly once in about 20 times. The Wizard of Odds shows that the average cycle for a similar 9/4/4/3 Bonus Deuces Wild game is 19,891 hands with no changes in strategy to shorten the duration (under the Game type of Power Quads). If the odds were 1 in 20, you would almost certainly have hit the top prize once in 200 trials if the cutoff was as many as 10,000 hands. I’m certain you would have remembered such a win, so maybe my calcs are off a bit or perhaps the cutoff for the top prize was fewer than 10,000 hands. Did you actually know when the amount was set to decrease after so many hands or did you just observe it dropping during your play? Did you ever try and go after quads more aggressively early in the cycle? Or just ignore the additional payout and take the likely 7.8 coins ($39) or more as just a tiny extra every 20,000 hands or so?"

Does anyone here have knowledge of more details relating to how this worked in the past ... or how it works today, perhaps on lower EV games?

Gamblers Bonus offered a bonus like this. Every so often I'd see a blurb on the game screen saying someone won a very nice bonus. Most people I talked to who hit it collected $100-200 and said you had to get very lucky to win $1,000 or more.

Quote: drrock

Bob Dancer's current column talks about a past play that included "a bonus system where every time you hit a natural four of a kind — or a five-of-a-kind with exactly one deuce — your card got marked electronically. If you could get all 13 ranks in few enough hands, you could earn up to $50,000. After 10,000 or so hands, the $50,000 would start to decrease, depending on your denomination. It would end up at $39 if enough hands passed before you scored all 13 ranks."

One of the comments follow: "Interesting. Completing a set of quads was sort of like a reverse progressive. Evidently, this concept is still around, but just on poorer base games? Is that right? Could you give a little more detail? Were there just a few step-down levels or did the amount to win just drop almost continuously little by little? Were you actually able to win 10,000 coins (in this case $5 coins) by completing the set within 10,000 hands? That seems like it would be likely to occur once in a while, perhaps roughly once in about 20 times. The Wizard of Odds shows that the average cycle for a similar 9/4/4/3 Bonus Deuces Wild game is 19,891 hands with no changes in strategy to shorten the duration (under the Game type of Power Quads). If the odds were 1 in 20, you would almost certainly have hit the top prize once in 200 trials if the cutoff was as many as 10,000 hands. I’m certain you would have remembered such a win, so maybe my calcs are off a bit or perhaps the cutoff for the top prize was fewer than 10,000 hands. Did you actually know when the amount was set to decrease after so many hands or did you just observe it dropping during your play? Did you ever try and go after quads more aggressively early in the cycle? Or just ignore the additional payout and take the likely 7.8 coins ($39) or more as just a tiny extra every 20,000 hands or so?"

Does anyone here have knowledge of more details relating to how this worked in the past ... or how it works today, perhaps on lower EV games?

Are you talking about Gamblers Bonus? Perhaps Some one knows the exact formula they use that makes your starting bonus amount drop(I do believe GB keeps that a secret). The drop rate keeps increasing significantly as you play . They used to have a slightly over 100% variation of Deuces Wild and it just wast not worth the time and effort to play straight up for that.

About four years ago I played this when my girlfriend and I were regular customers at a local bar which served food. We played some VP while we had our lunch or dinner.

Food was great by the way and low priced which is why we went there frequently.

We both got the bonus. I got it for something like $179 and she got it for something like $80.
Top prize at the time was $20,000 but the more hands you played the amount dropped.

What I discovered too late was that playing one coin was the same as playing five coins as far as the bonus was concerned. Denomination didnt matter either.

If you were playing just for the bonus a single 25 cents bet was the same as a single $5 bet. Yes, the bartops had up to $5 denomination.

Occasionally on the radio you'd hear a commercial about someone winning $18,000 or something like that.

Just before the Covid crisis Suncoast casino installed some machines with a bonus for all 13 quads. The paytable was reduced. I think for Bonus it was 6/5. But I'm not sure. I play 8/5 bonus at Suncoast.

I dont remember the paytable at the bar. But I have some photos of royals that she hit so let me check.

Edited to add: the bartop with the Gamblers Bonus was 6/5 bonus.

Quote: AxelWolf

Are you talking about Gamblers Bonus? Perhaps Some one knows the exact formula they use that makes your starting bonus amount drop(I do believe GB keeps that a secret). The drop rate keeps increasing significantly as you play . They used to have a slightly over 100% variation of Deuces Wild and it just wast not worth the time and effort to play straight up for that.

Yes, I think so. I have noticed that online they talk about the target for the big hit being 2000 hands rather than 10,000. They also talk about a secondary "bingo card" where you can store another group of quads for ranks that you have already hit on your primary "bingo card."

I am presuming that the counter doesn't start on the secondary card until it moves up to become the primary card? Based on what you and others have said, I'm guessing that you cannot see a counter. Can you even see the current amount that you might win if you finish the 13th quad on the next hand?

No more guessing. Gamblers Bonus has a website and their address is easy:

www.gamblersbonus.com

See "BINGO"

Quote: drrock

Yes, I think so. I have noticed that online they talk about the target for the big hit being 2000 hands rather than 10,000. They also talk about a secondary "bingo card" where you can store another group of quads for ranks that you have already hit on your primary "bingo card."

I am presuming that the counter doesn't start on the secondary card until it moves up to become the primary card? Based on what you and others have said, I'm guessing that you cannot see a counter. Can you even see the current amount that you might win if you finish the 13th quad on the next hand?

Yes, you can always see the amount you will win when you complete all of the four of a kinds.

I used to play these almost every day for many years. I had a very strange occurence that may never have happened to anyone else. I was playing the Deuces Plus game and I hit every natural 4 of a kind before hitting the four deuces (it was the last one on my card). The odds of that have to be astronomical.

The largest bonus I ever collected was $2,100.