Hullabaloo
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July 13th, 2018 at 1:31:57 PM permalink
This weeks contest at videopoker.com is Ultimate X Wheel Poker.

Same as regular UX, but if you can get wheel spins as well which have up to 2,000 coins or 20X multipliers.

It's free through Sunday, after that it will be Gold only for a while.
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July 13th, 2018 at 3:26:35 PM permalink
What does it cost per game?
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July 13th, 2018 at 3:30:01 PM permalink
videopoker.com says you need to be gold to play UX wheel poker.
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July 13th, 2018 at 3:39:39 PM permalink
You can play the contest for free. I like the game, will have to try it when I see it in Vegas at some point.
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July 13th, 2018 at 5:15:47 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

What does it cost per game?



As an example the current contest is 5 play. For full coin and features you pay:

5 coins per hand for the basic game
5 coins per hand for the UX feature
1 coin per hand for the wheel feature
So a total of 55 coins for 5 play.

As mentioned, you can't play it unless you are gold on the regular games, but because it is the weekly contest you CAN play it on the contest page, (provided you are a member of course, and basic membership is free). That option will end at 11.59 PM on 7/15/18.

It's an OK game. I've never head much luck with UX anyway so it isn't something I'm likely to play for real. Getting good multipliers happens frequently, but I find that trying to get a high winning hand with them is slim to none.
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July 13th, 2018 at 6:21:14 PM permalink
my local used to have a wheel game. I cant remember the particulars but it was something like if you got a dealt 3oak or maybe a 4oak then you got a wheel spin that would give you different things like 12 games with a dealt 3oak or 20 games with a dealt pair. I used to love the game but they got rid of it. I would love a game like that with ux. I am going to check out the contest.
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July 13th, 2018 at 6:25:56 PM permalink
so i went and played it and I do not like the game at all and would not play it. I like the other wheel game like I mentioned above. The one thing that I do not like about this game is I got a full house on my second hand. I did the spin and won 250 credits. However I did not get the 12x on the next hand. I guess the wheel cancels out your next multiplier. That doesnt seem right since you are paying the extra credit for the wheel.
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July 13th, 2018 at 7:54:13 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

my local used to have a wheel game. I cant remember the particulars but it was something like if you got a dealt 3oak or maybe a 4oak then you got a wheel spin that would give you different things like 12 games with a dealt 3oak or 20 games with a dealt pair. I used to love the game but they got rid of it. I would love a game like that with ux. I am going to check out the contest.



Sounds like Wheel Poker Deluxe
https://www.videopoker.com/play_games/free/?game=83

There are some in downtown Vegas. As I recall there are 2 at the 4 Queens and I think they have them at Fremont or perhaps Binions as well.
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July 13th, 2018 at 7:57:56 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

so i went and played it and I do not like the game at all and would not play it. I like the other wheel game like I mentioned above. The one thing that I do not like about this game is I got a full house on my second hand. I did the spin and won 250 credits. However I did not get the 12x on the next hand. I guess the wheel cancels out your next multiplier. That doesnt seem right since you are paying the extra credit for the wheel.



That sounds more like a bug to me. You're paying full value for the UX. Then more to pay for the wheel. Spinning the wheel should not have canceled your next hand multiplier.

Gonna go look at it.

Edit:



Guess that was correct, not a bug. Pretty pricey on 5 play to lose those multipliers to a single wheel spon.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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July 13th, 2018 at 9:25:06 PM permalink
From my play on videopoker.com, the credit values are very very rare. You are more likely to get a multiplier. But remember, a 20x multiplier against a losing hand is still 0.
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July 14th, 2018 at 6:04:00 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs





Guess that was correct, not a bug. Pretty pricey on 5 play to lose those multipliers to a single wheel spon.



Depends on the average value of the wheel spin.
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July 14th, 2018 at 6:09:34 AM permalink
Quote: prozema

Quote: beachbumbabs





Guess that was correct, not a bug. Pretty pricey on 5 play to lose those multipliers to a single wheel spon.



Depends on the average value of the wheel spin.



Ev wise it may not matter but play experience wise it does to me. Like I got 16x a bunch of times. So really only got 4x more. Seems like a lot of extra credits to pay for only 4x more.
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July 14th, 2018 at 6:11:21 AM permalink
Quote: Hullabaloo

Sounds like Wheel Poker Deluxe
https://www.videopoker.com/play_games/free/?game=83

There are some in downtown Vegas. As I recall there are 2 at the 4 Queens and I think they have them at Fremont or perhaps Binions as well.



Yep that's it. I like that game. It is exciting to get 10 games with all 3 aces.
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July 14th, 2018 at 10:05:54 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Quote: prozema

Quote: beachbumbabs





Guess that was correct, not a bug. Pretty pricey on 5 play to lose those multipliers to a single wheel spon.



Depends on the average value of the wheel spin.



Ev wise it may not matter but play experience wise it does to me. Like I got 16x a bunch of times. So really only got 4x more. Seems like a lot of extra credits to pay for only 4x more.



Agree. Though I guess the worst you can do is get 14x per FH instead of 12x. So not as bad as it first looked.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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July 14th, 2018 at 3:09:54 PM permalink
I hope the wizard does an analysis. I hate figuring out wheel weights. $$$
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March 18th, 2019 at 8:51:09 PM permalink
Just found this game with 7/5 bonus (5 play), and wondering if anyone has any more info on the wheel weights. My shaky math tells me it's costing about 90 credits for one wheel spin, so you'd need to make that up on the bonus hand (above the 12x you'd get on normal UX), so unless you're winning the credits instead of the multipliers on the reg (I've spun the wheel maybe a dozen times, and no credit wins), it doesn't seem playable.
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March 18th, 2019 at 9:48:46 PM permalink
Quote: GuyIncognito

Just found this game with 7/5 bonus (5 play), and wondering if anyone has any more info on the wheel weights. My shaky math tells me it's costing about 90 credits for one wheel spin, so you'd need to make that up on the bonus hand (above the 12x you'd get on normal UX), so unless you're winning the credits instead of the multipliers on the reg (I've spun the wheel maybe a dozen times, and no credit wins), it doesn't seem playable.



Isn't this game 7/6/5 when betting 10? Unfortunately vp.com claims it ranges from 96.92% to 99.52% for Bonus and it's very dependent on the wheel weighting.
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March 18th, 2019 at 10:33:52 PM permalink
That's right; I didn't notice the weird paytables at first. Where on vp.com does it mention the return percentages?
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March 18th, 2019 at 11:32:17 PM permalink
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That's right; I didn't notice the weird paytables at first. Where on vp.com does it mention the return percentages?



When you play the game as a gold member you can change the paytable and see the payback percentage.
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March 19th, 2019 at 1:34:16 AM permalink
Just checked again and this one is 7/6/4; does a 7/6/5 version actually exist? Regardless, I'm going to leave it alone until I see further analysis; I'm a bit surprised there's not one on here yet, given that we have them for the other wheel variants.
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March 19th, 2019 at 4:50:15 AM permalink
Does the game force max bet to play abandoned multipliers?
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March 19th, 2019 at 5:28:06 AM permalink
In case anyone is interested, this weeks contest is Ultimate X Bonus Streak

https://www.videopoker.com/contests/go/?c=3687
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March 19th, 2019 at 10:42:15 AM permalink
Quote: prozema

Does the game force max bet to play abandoned multipliers?



All the spin offs of UX require max bet, afaik. I haven't seen this game in a casino yet though.
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March 19th, 2019 at 2:42:16 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

Does the game force max bet to play abandoned multipliers?



It does, yes.
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March 28th, 2019 at 11:05:21 AM permalink
4 machines were being set up today at one of my local stores. Guess I need to figure out that wheel...
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March 30th, 2019 at 10:10:53 AM permalink
This is being run as the contest game of the day today. The wheel seems to be heavily weighted to the 20x multiplier.. I found it quite easy to hit.
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March 30th, 2019 at 10:35:46 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

This is being run as the contest game of the day today. The wheel seems to be heavily weighted to the 20x multiplier.. I found it quite easy to hit.



They caught on to my add blocker trick. :-(
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March 30th, 2019 at 11:45:20 AM permalink
Quote: prozema

They caught on to my add blocker trick. :-(



Not much data, but I'm thinking a wheel is worth 18Xish not counting the coin prizes (which I have yet to get BTW).
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March 30th, 2019 at 12:11:35 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

Not much data, but I'm thinking a wheel is worth 18Xish not counting the coin prizes (which I have yet to get BTW).



They are very rare... which makes sense... a 20x multiplier only gets used approximately half the time, and then it's typically 100 coins. (20 x 5 for a pair).
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March 30th, 2019 at 1:40:47 PM permalink
I find the game to be kind of annoying. You have to pause every time you get the wheel, which can be quite often. Every once in a while you have to spin it 5 times in one game, but most of the time for me anyway it's either a blank or a low win. I have received all the different amounts though; got a 500 today.

It seems to be pretty streaky too. I did well today, but more than once in the past I've had it drop incredibly fast.
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