Vegasrider
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October 19th, 2020 at 7:08:23 PM permalink
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End of Day 3

Perhaps the beginning of a comeback? Played tiles at Harrahs for almost 3 hours. Sign was $50 when I arrived. Asked the pit boss if heíd be willing to drop it to $25. Game was empty. He agreed immediately and I sat down. I thanked him. Anyway, then a different pit boss upped the bet to $50 and gave everyone 30 mins notice.



I thought that you would be grandfathered in on the previous minimum bet vs being subject to a time limit.
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October 19th, 2020 at 7:29:47 PM permalink
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I thought that you would be grandfathered in on the previous minimum bet vs being subject to a time limit.



It varies by casino and pit boss. No standards.
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kewlj
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October 19th, 2020 at 10:55:53 PM permalink
By my experience "grandfathering" is a courtesy that Las Vegas doesn't extend as routinely as other places.

Earlier in my career, when I was playing Atlantic City, it was very common. And I needed it at the time as that bump up in table minimum would have increased my RoR to unsafe levels.

But I just don't see much of grandfathering occurring in Vegas. I mean, if they are raising table limits it is because they think they can get a full table at the higher limits. It is probably getting into more crowded times, evenings, weekends. So why do they want to offer several players to play at lower limits when they think they can get players at the higher limits. Again, the answer is as a courtesy, but Las Vegas really isn't about being courteous in my experience. Maybe some places do it, I just haven't seen a lot of it.
mcallister3200
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October 20th, 2020 at 12:11:18 AM permalink
I donít think I remember seeing much grandfathering in other locations the last several years in other locations either. Usually just ďafter this shoe minimum goes up to 15/25Ē or whatever it is. Seemed when I started 10-15 years ago it was commonplace. I do believe itís more uncommon now unless itís just me. Probably just donít really want to give a guy the option to be camped betting $5-$10 for all day not moving on a weekend when everyone else betting 2-3x as much and tables are crowded.
olga909
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October 20th, 2020 at 4:58:32 AM permalink
Where better play?
TinMan
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October 20th, 2020 at 7:06:24 AM permalink
In my quest to do at least some things I havenít done before, I was considering going to the Gamblerís General Store. Iíll be checking out of Excalibur today and heading downtown. From downtown (letís say Plaza area), is it a reasonably safe walk? Or better to Uber? Distance isnít an issue.
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October 20th, 2020 at 7:27:02 AM permalink
For some reason I never thought about the possibility of cafeteria style buffets.

I thought buffets were just going to fade out of existence.
Vegasrider
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October 20th, 2020 at 11:47:20 AM permalink
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By my experience "grandfathering" is a courtesy . Again, the answer is as a courtesy, but Las Vegas really isn't about being courteous in my experience. Maybe some places do it, I just haven't seen a lot of it.



Come to Reno where the limits are lower and you can be grandfathered in. I can't speak about Lake Tahoe which is about 30 minutes away, there is just too much money up there so I'm sure they will try to squeeze as much money out of the player since the majority of them who play are from California. Us locals will stay and play in Reno.
TinMan
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October 20th, 2020 at 10:39:24 PM permalink
Day 5

A busy day, with some ups and downs. But overall down.

Checked out early morning from Excalibur. I didnít like it at all. There really wasnít much of anything to play and the room smelled. Not really in walking distance to anything other than NY NY.

Uber to the Cal. They let me check in at 8am. I suppose when itís midweek during a pandemic there are lots of available rooms.

After getting settled, found the 10/7 double bonus machines at the Cal. quickly lost $260.

Decided to start my downtown ACG coupon run. Overall that went well. Up $100 or so. One negativeóthe ďpush on 22Ē at the D is no longer being honored. The $25 match play is available. For the first time in my life I played bingo at Plaza. Didnít win but did get free drinks and it was pleasant way to spend some time. A new experience at the least.

Had breakfast at the Magnolia in 4 Queens. Really great place. Exactly what I wanted.

Back to the 10/7 Double Bonus at the Cal. This time even worse. Dropped $500 and decided to head to dinner. Marketplace Cafe at Cal. Food was very good, although you can tell the ďvegetable of the dayĒ (carrot/peas/corn mix) was from a can/frozen. The salmon was delicious.

Some double deck BJ. $10 min. Within an hour lost $175 and decided to take a stab at double bonus again. Finally hit 2 four of a kind. Had several AAA sweats and one 4 to a Royal sweat but neither hit. Left $400 up.

Table games at Cal not 24/7. During the week open at 2pm. Tonight all were closed by 10pm. Just one shift during the week. Sad.

Trip Overall: down $1400 or so.
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TinMan
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October 22nd, 2020 at 9:57:38 PM permalink
Day 6

I forgot to post yesterday and forgot most of the details about the day. Overall it was another loss. I remember losing $170 at $10 craps at Freemont and about $150 at 4 Queens craps. Dropped another $300 at the 10/7 DB VP at 4 Queens. Thatís a quarter game so just unbelievably bad luck. Moved over to 9/6 JOB at 4 queens and lost another $100 there. Then lost Another $100 or so at Cal BJ. Tried to go to Freemont Tony Romaís for the 11.99 surf and turf but the wait was long and I was hungry. Settled for the Lenai place Instead. Back to the Cal and had a small comeback. Picked up $200 at 10/7 DB and $125 at BJ.

Total loss: about $1900
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