Mission146
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March 1st, 2018 at 8:46:07 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Mind boggling and downright abusive that parking is not included in a $40/night resort fee. What exactly are you getting? Itís a little surprising theyíre being legally allowed to even use the word resort as if youíre getting anything for the fee, extremely deceptive and just dishonest practice. Should just be called ďfee.Ē Itís been an MGM corporate policy for my adult life to never put anything forward that a customer could perceive as providing value, so whatever.



What exactly are you getting?

I don't know, but would you rather pay a Resort Fee at or just shy of $40 at one of those properties or the Resort Fee of $19.99 at the Ellis Island Super 8? Would the latter resort fee imply that the Ellis Island Super 8 is no less than half of the resort that the MGM properties are? I've spoken at-length about what this, "Resort Fee," includes before, so I'll quote from myself:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/las-vegas-casinos/ellis-island/29186-now-thats-ridiculous-ellis-island-resort-fee/#post599569

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Wireless Internet Access
Discounted Shuttle to the Airport
Ellis Island Breakfast
Heated pool and spa
Free Truck/bus parking
Check in time: 3pm

Answers:

-I'll use my phone as a hotspot.

-I'm driving, taking a cab, not heading to the airport from here...etc

-I'll get breakfast elsewhere.

-I don't want to use them.

-I don't have a truck or bus.

-Um...as opposed to what other time?



Anyway, the things that they list as part of the, "Resort Fee," alternate between things commonly offered for free at other Super 8's, or a few which are just straight-up franchise requirements. Wireless Internet is an excellent example, because a Super 8 MUST offer complimentary Internet access for guests, so that literally CANNOT technically be part of a resort fee.

Another thing is the, "Ellis Island Breakfast." Granted, I don't know what that might consist of, but what I do know is that Super 8's MUST provide a free Continental Breakfast, so what does the resort fee have to do with that?

While Super 8's are not required to have a pool, I've certainly never heard of one in which a guest must pay extra in order to access the pool if they do.

As far as being an insult to one's intelligence goes, I think the Ellis Island Super 8 Resort Fee is the more egregious of the two.

Super 8---Resort Fee...should those two terms even be able to exist in the same sentence?
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March 1st, 2018 at 8:53:03 AM permalink
Often times, one can get a room downtown for less than the resort fees, alone, on the strip. When you drive up Las Vegas Blvd, it's still completely going off. Some people say the tipping point will come but will it? LV is a full-on global (if the earth was round) destination.
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March 1st, 2018 at 10:20:10 AM permalink
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Often times, one can get a room downtown for less than the resort fees, alone, on the strip. When you drive up Las Vegas Blvd, it's still completely going off. Some people say the tipping point will come but will it? LV is a full-on global (if the earth was round) destination.



Quote: Wes Rand, Las Vegas Review Journal, February 27


Rates as of March 1

$39 - Bellagio, Vdara, Aria, Encore, Wynn, Four Seasons, Mandarin Oriental, Palazzo, Venetian, Nobu, Caesar's Cosmopolitan, Green Valley Ranch, Red Rock
$37 - Paris, Planet Hollywood, Cromwell, Delano, MGM Grand, Mirage, Signature@MGM, Mandalay Bat, Monte Carlo, NYNY
$35 - Luxor, Excalibur, Tropicana, Trump, Linq, Ballys, Harrah's, Flamingo, TI
$33 - Hard Rock
$32 - SLS
$30 - Rio, Circus Circus
$29.50 - GN
$29 - Hooters
$25.99 - Palace Station
$23 - Downtown Grand
$20.99 - Gold Coast, Suncoast, Silver Sevens, Orleans
$19.99 - Aliante, Sam's Torn, Ellis Island
$14.95 - El Cortez



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Quote: LVRJ, February 28

Passenger traffic at McCarran up again in latest report, officials say



"On the heels of a record-breaking 2017, passenger traffic continued to grow at McCarran International Airport during the first month of the new year, the Clark County Department of Aviation reported Wednesday.

More than 3.77 million airline passengers flew through the nationís eighth-busiest airport last month, a 2.7 percent increase from January 2017. Growth was buoyed by upticks in both domestic and international travel, airport officials said.

More than 3.42 million passengers boarded or arrived on domestic flights last month, a 2.4 percent jump from a year earlier. International flights arriving or departing McCarran carried 277,571 travelers, a 3.4 percent increase from a year earlier."
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March 1st, 2018 at 10:59:42 AM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

Often times, one can get a room downtown for less than the resort fees, alone, on the strip. When you drive up Las Vegas Blvd, it's still completely going off. Some people say the tipping point will come but will it? LV is a full-on global (if the earth was round) destination.


Las Vegas is a convenient place to hold conventions. There are lots of convention centers, plenty of hotel rooms, and it doesnít hurt it has the best entertainment in the world (shows, gambling, and hookers). That alone will bring in plenty of customers. Not to mention the people who go there specifically to gamble, which I think is a dying breed because there are casinos practically everywhere. And the people who go there to party donít care (AFAIK) about resort fees, parking fees, 6:5 BJ, etc.
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March 1st, 2018 at 11:02:59 AM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

That's why I created a thread about "Why Vegas" as it seems it's not as great as it use to be. Forgot that you now have to pay to park in many of the strip casino's as well. Not sure what the resort fees are for some of the big casinos here in Reno, but I'm sure it's much less to none, and free parking.



I'll be looking at Reno next visit. Heck, I'd love to market the place if I could find a way to make a buck.
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boymimbo
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March 1st, 2018 at 11:32:01 AM permalink
Resort Fees exist in Reno as well:
- Eldorado / Silver Legacy 20.43
- Grand Sierra $29.95
- Harrahs' $14
- Nugget $22.70
- Peppermill / Atlantis $28.25
- Sands $9.99
- Plaza $13.62

Some also charge a "Tourism Fee" at $2/$3 night.

So Reno is not immune.
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Vegasrider
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March 1st, 2018 at 11:53:29 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Resort Fees exist in Reno as well:

So Reno is not immune.



True but free parking. Plus flying in and out of Reno is a breeze. Never long lines at security and you don't have to walk a mile. Rental car counter us 20 feet from baggage claim and the cars are ust another 150 feet away. May take you another 30-45 minutes in Vegas.

Fares are cheap, you just have to book early. Jet Blue from JFK is $250 RT in the past, my friend has gotten them for less as well. Frontier and SW are other options but I don't know where you guys would be flying in from so maybe the fares are very expensive.
boymimbo
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March 1st, 2018 at 12:44:56 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

True but free parking. Plus flying in and out of Reno is a breeze. Never long lines at security and you don't have to walk a mile. Rental car counter us 20 feet from baggage claim and the cars are ust another 150 feet away. May take you another 30-45 minutes in Vegas.

Fares are cheap, you just have to book early. Jet Blue from JFK is $250 RT in the past, my friend has gotten them for less as well. Frontier and SW are other options but I don't know where you guys would be flying in from so maybe the fares are very expensive.



True. But with Reno you can only connect to hubs, so for most people, you have to fly through: San Francisco, Phoenix, Houston, Denver, Salt Lake, Minneapolis, and O'Hare. Directs I imagine from one of those hubs would be more expensive than connecting. The JFK and O'Hares flight are direct, but you arrive late at night and have to take a red-eye to return (on JetBlue and American).

Whereas every city pretty much as a direct to LAS flight running multiple times a day. From the New York area you have 18 different options to fly to LAS directly and 11 non red-eye returns to get you back home (Delta, American, JetBlue running out of JFK, United out of EWR).

But you are right about the walking and the rental car and the security at Reno, but those are all negated through a connection (walking, losing your luggage, time waiting for plane, chance of missed connection) or a crappy flight time.
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Vegasrider
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March 1st, 2018 at 1:24:28 PM permalink
Yes, when it comes to nonstop flights, there isn't any airport better than LAS. That was the reason why I choose to live in Vegas when I had to travel for a luving, about 250-300 days of the year. There are nonstop flights to just about every city imaginable domestically. It's okay Intl too, but not even close to some other major airports.

Reno on the other hand, I agree you are most likely connecting thru another city unless you're flying in from DEN, SLC, PHX,LAX, or some other west coast city. Yes, JFK Jet Blue is a redeye on the way back to the east coast, probably why it's so cheap.

Unless you're into outdoors, the only thing to do in Reno is to go to the casinos. Not much A entertainment around here. But again, betting $25 a hand iup here you will be treated as royalty, you'll receive the best of everything at the best properties where in Vegas, it might take a black chip player to receive the best at the elite properties
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March 1st, 2018 at 10:10:13 PM permalink
Quote: Wes Rand, Las Vegas Review Journal, February 27

Rates as of March 1

$35 - Luxor, Excalibur, Tropicana, Trump, Linq, Ballys, Harrah's, Flamingo, TI
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How can Trump charge a resorts fee? There isn't a casino?? I seriously doubt the President is aware one of his properties/branded is scamming with a "Resort Fee".

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