harris
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November 5th, 2025 at 4:22:28 PM permalink
I just saw an ad for Birthday Bet, a roulette side bet in Vegas.

The Wizard of Odds site says it initially pays 6:1 but pays 50:1 on subsequent rolls, but the text in this ad said it initially pays 5:1 and then 70:1.

I calculated the RTP to be around 86.8%
Math: (5)*((3/38)^1) +(70)*((3/38)^2) +(70)*((3/38)^3) +(70)*((3/38)^4)…

I don’t think that the Wizard of Odds website has the house edge right for the 6:1 variant. Can someone else take a look? I think the math is off - landing this bet on the roulette wheel twice should earn you 56 not 50…
zbrownson
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November 5th, 2025 at 7:12:08 PM permalink
Quote: harris

I just saw an ad for Birthday Bet, a roulette side bet in Vegas.

The Wizard of Odds site says it initially pays 6:1 but pays 50:1 on subsequent rolls, but the text in this ad said it initially pays 5:1 and then 70:1.

I calculated the RTP to be around 86.8%
Math: (5)*((3/38)^1) +(70)*((3/38)^2) +(70)*((3/38)^3) +(70)*((3/38)^4)…

I don’t think that the Wizard of Odds website has the house edge right for the 6:1 variant. Can someone else take a look? I think the math is off - landing this bet on the roulette wheel twice should earn you 56 not 50…
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I get the house edge at ~18.8% for the original 6:1, 50:1 version, I believe the intention of the bet according to the rack card is to be an infinite series, so you keep getting paid 50 to 1 on subsequent hits until you lose, but ultimately you always lose so I subtract one from the total pay.

Hits Probability Payout Expected Value
0x 0.921052632 -1 -0.921052632
1x 0.072714681 5 0.363573407
2x 0.005740633 55 0.315734801
3x 0.000453208 105 0.047586824
4x 3.57796E-05 155 0.005545833
5x 3.06682E-06 205 0.000628698
6x 2.42117E-07 255 6.17399E-05
Total -0.187921328



Out of curiosity, where did you see an ad for it at? I don't see a lot of promotional stuff around games and/or sidebets.
harris
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November 5th, 2025 at 8:09:01 PM permalink
I also got that house edge in a slightly different way
(6)*((3/38)^1) +(50)*((3/38)^2) +(50)*((3/38)^3) +(50)*((3/38)^4) + (50)*((3/38)^5)...

Modifying this equation by changing 38 to 39, and changing 6 or 50 can yield the 30 other possible pay tables that exist according to Nevada law.
harris
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November 5th, 2025 at 8:10:23 PM permalink
In retrospect it probably wasn't an ad, my social media is just cooked and I get recommended a ton of gambling content on Instagram and Youtube. The casino is Rio btw and you can watch their video on instagram. I scrolled through their instagram and the only other table games content I saw was craps I think
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November 5th, 2025 at 8:14:05 PM permalink
ahh ok thanks. I knew it was at Downtown Grand (not sure if still there), but wasn't aware it made it in the Rio as well.
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