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Vegasrider
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March 18th, 2020 at 1:42:10 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Keep the chips but get rid of the disgusting smokers!



Start with this!
Gandler
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March 18th, 2020 at 3:24:12 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Start with this!



I don't think banning smoking is feasible without first removing chips. Both are symbols from the past.

To future-proof themselves casinos need to go more electronic which includes adding more video game based games (Like many have been) and other modern skill based gambling options.
AZDuffman
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March 18th, 2020 at 3:51:35 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

I don't think banning smoking is feasible without first removing chips. Both are symbols from the past.

To future-proof themselves casinos need to go more electronic which includes adding more video game based games (Like many have been) and other modern skill based gambling options.



What on earth do smoking and chips have to do with each other?

Why on earth do you even want to go to a casino as you seem to dislike so much about them? Why not just stay home and play your electronic games? I see no reason you would want to enter a casino.
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Gandler
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March 18th, 2020 at 4:42:24 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

What on earth do smoking and chips have to do with each other?

Why on earth do you even want to go to a casino as you seem to dislike so much about them? Why not just stay home and play your electronic games? I see no reason you would want to enter a casino.



Right now I plan to do exactly that until things fizzle over.


As for what smoking and chips have to do with each other, they are both massive public health hazards.

I love casinos, but they need to modernize.... In many ways they feel like relics of a different era (which may appeal to some people).....

Electronic Games, Electronic payouts (and deposits) are easy ways to modernize. Skill based games (other than poker) are another thing they need.....

Either banning smoking or doing the AC 25% rule (which I think is fair for both smokers and non-smokers) would be a good solution for the smoking issue.
AZDuffman
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March 18th, 2020 at 4:47:22 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

Right now I plan to do exactly that until things fizzle over.


As for what smoking and chips have to do with each other, they are both massive public health hazards.



Massive health hazard? Chips? Get a grip on reality.

People who play table games generally do not live in fear of every little thing. And we like the feel and sound of chips. We like the community of the table.

Stick to playing online if that is what you prefer. People go to a casino to get away from what they can get at home.
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Gandler
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March 18th, 2020 at 5:31:43 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Massive health hazard? Chips? Get a grip on reality.

People who play table games generally do not live in fear of every little thing. And we like the feel and sound of chips. We like the community of the table.

Stick to playing online if that is what you prefer. People go to a casino to get away from what they can get at home.




It is well known that smoking is the leading cause of preventable death worldwide (and second leading cause in U.S. behind only to obesity because Americans have poor diet and exercise habits, casinos can also have a role on this front by having more standing tables and slots, and more gyms, but that is a matter for another time).

It is also well known that improper hand-hygiene is one of the leading causes of deaths worldwide (that number is harder to quantify), especially in developing countries where diseases can be far more fatal.

Both smoking and disinfecting environmental surfaces are things which can be controlled (because it has to be assumed that most customers do not properly wash hands).

I don't think pointing out the harms of smoking and improper hand hygiene should be controversial.

I do agree with your comment that most people who play a lot probably do not care, because gamblers tend to engage in riskier (and less sanitary behavior) on average, which means casinos need to step up more than ever to be the responsible party.
Vegasrider
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March 18th, 2020 at 10:15:09 PM permalink
Imagine playing poker without chips and not having any cards to hold. Online poker and live poker are different. just not the same. Besides, chips are used in the casinos favor, most people have an easier time betting than using actual cash.

As far the machines, the electronic paper ticket payouts are nice vs the actual coins dropping out of the machine.
Gandler
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March 19th, 2020 at 12:10:01 AM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Imagine playing poker without chips and not having any cards to hold. Online poker and live poker are different. just not the same. Besides, chips are used in the casinos favor, most people have an easier time betting than using actual cash.

As far the machines, the electronic paper ticket payouts are nice vs the actual coins dropping out of the machine.



Exactly, that is a prime example.

Everybody thought it would be insane to remove coins from slots. But, now tickets are widely regarded as safer and more convenient.

I would make the same argument for slots that they also need to go a step further and allow electronic deposits (not just cash) and electronic ticket withdraws.
onenickelmiracle
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March 19th, 2020 at 12:52:28 AM permalink
Can this thread just be closed? These people think the rest of us work for the casinos?

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You got it buddy. I am waving my scepter on my crown and lay the law of the land. From this day forward, none of my people will ever have to smell that stinky smoke and touch a dirty chip. Body condoms will be given to everyone covered in Royal gold.



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Gandler
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March 19th, 2020 at 1:33:27 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Can this thread just be closed? These people think the rest of us work for the casinos?



Close a thread you don't agree with? That is original.....

It is a pretty relevant point. Nobody thinks everyone works for casinos (though many here do, even more watch), but I feel its a fair point of view to have, and its an issue I have long talked about, and now seems like a good time to convince others of the danger since people tend to be compounding fear of such things right now, and now is the first time casinos are taking many dramatic changes very quickly...

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