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February 9th, 2016 at 12:15:49 PM permalink
Actually, no relation. Stephen Alan Weinberg (Steve Wynn) of New Haven, Connecticut is a different bird from a different family.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
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July 8th, 2016 at 2:04:31 PM permalink
Here are Sam Torosian photos


Former Casino Boss Sam Torosian plays Pai Gow at his daughters house in South Pasadena with family members. L to R Sam's grandaughter Cambria Piersol (back to camera), grandaughter Tatiana Kendinian, Sam Torosian, and Sam's brother in law Hayik Kendinian.

Also his sad story details link

About Sam and The Creation of Pai Gow Poker
Sam Torosian was a business man. He bought his casino in 1984-54 for $750,000. The purchase came with dozens of gaming tables, and more than 750 employees. But most nights he had only enough customers to keep a few tables running.
So his challenge during that time, like many other California casinos, was to bring in enough customers to save his casino.
Part of the problem, though, was that the laws at the time only permitted 3 games; draw poker, low ball and panguingue.
One day Torosian chatted with a Filipino poker player. The player told him about a game called puy soy. The idea behind puy soy is that players are dealt 13 cards with the objective of creating 3 poker hands. Those hands play against the dealerís.
The game sounded too slow to Torosian. But it sparked an idea; what if players made 2 hands instead, one with 5 cards and the second with 2?
He ran the game against several people, including now deceased Chief Frank Fording, a local police offer. The chief liked the game, which encouraged Torosian to try it out in his casino, despite the current laws.
Torosian decided to gamble, and launched a pai gow poker game the following Friday night on 2 tables. It was packed. The following Friday 30 days were running.
The game took off, and it wasnít long before it made itís way onto the Las Vegas strip, and then the rest of the world.
The Sad PartÖ
What makes this story sad is that Sam Torosian had the opportunity to patent the game. However, he received advice from poker player and author, Mike ĎMad Geniusí Caro, that anything done with a deck of cards was public domain. He received similar advice from a lawyer.
Both were wrong.
Unfortunately, there is a 1-year window for new games to be patented before being entering public domain territory, which is what happened with pai gow poker.
Itís estimated that this poor advice / choice cost Sam regular monthly royalty checks from all casinos that offer it, in the range of $70,000, or more, per month.
Iíd rather have to be a lucky player than good one.

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