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June 11th, 2019 at 12:43:59 PM permalink
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However, notwithstanding the aforementioned, Axel is a big boy and he can surely dish out the insults, therefore he can take any reciprocal remarks. I actually think he is quite funny and I don't take anything personal, at all. They are compliments to me.

I only request one answer to my question.... how many fake accounts here does he have? This is something the moderators should know and monitor, no?



To the first point. Yes, both you and Axel are adult enough to spar with each-other, but even jokey personal insults can lower the tone of the forum, so I continue to ask you both to be courteous.

To the second point. We can never absolutely know that a member doesn't have multiple ID's, but i have no reason to suspect that he has, or has ever had any other ID.
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June 11th, 2019 at 12:48:28 PM permalink
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To the second point. We can never absolutely know that a member doesn't have multiple ID's, but i have no reason to suspect that he has, or has ever had any other ID.



Shame on you..... I thought you were one of the smart ones here.
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June 11th, 2019 at 12:52:28 PM permalink
Remember in primary school, there was always that bully that tried to belittle everyone in effort to comfort his own insecurities, then that one individual comes along and punches the bully square in the mouth... the bully then becomes speechless and changes his behavior for the betterment of the class. Class dismissed. Have a NICE Day!
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June 11th, 2019 at 1:08:50 PM permalink
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Remember in primary school, there was always that bully that tried to belittle everyone in effort to comfort his own insecurities, then that one individual comes along and punches the bully square in the mouth... the bully then becomes speechless and changes his behavior for the betterment of the class. Class dismissed. Have a NICE Day!

Primary school bully. No. My memory isn't that good. But I do remember being sent to stand in the corner when I couldn't follow polite instructions.

And I thought we were adults here. No punching allowed, not even of the little bully.

Take a day out.

Now it's class dismissed!
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June 11th, 2019 at 1:31:00 PM permalink
Ok, now that everyone is making nice to each other once more, and getting back to the original topic....

It's clear nobody is interested in the "bid" approach so I'll take it off the table. I have to say I'm a bit surprised as to me this seemed equivalent to selling the promo rights. Suppose a casino offered you some sort of risk-free promo like this that was potentially worth a couple hundred bucks but you had to actually be physically present at the casino. Would you pass on it because of the transportation costs (a bus ticket or gas money depending on your mode)? For much less than the x-port cost, everybody has passed on the opportunity. So it goes.

I am therefore going to make a new offer. Think of this as a no-risk cash prize going to whoever can demonstrate the best record picking winners over a fixed time period (e.g. 6 weeks). I propose the following rules:
  1. To compete, each week, no latter than Friday(?) noon, PM me 4 picks for the coming week. Any sport and any bet so long as it settles in the next 7 days.
  2. All bets will be treated as "virtual" bets of the same amount (e.g., $110)
  3. At the end of the I'll post the results for that week
  4. At the end of the 6 weeks, whoever would have won the most if the bets had been real, wins the competition

Winner get the following:
  • The right to select a bet of up to $250 that I will then place using my Borgota promo. If it wins, they get 90% of the winnings. The remaining 10% will be used to buy drinks for forum admins the next time there is a WOV social event.
  • Bragging rights

Any takers?
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June 13th, 2019 at 7:56:30 AM permalink
6 weeks of picks? No bueno. In addition to that, you can't just give pics in the beginning of week for the entire week. Pics are decided and given on the day of the games.

Here is another example of the type of play you will get. I hit seven out of nine games in this particular parlay 2 nights ago.. However I had four other parlays which were 3 team and 4 team winners, and I've already cashed out.

Good luck at the Borgotz!

http://imgur.com/FySjRji
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June 13th, 2019 at 7:59:03 AM permalink
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6 weeks of picks? No bueno. In addition to that, you can't just give pics in the beginning of week for the entire week. Pics are decided and given on the day of the games.

Here is another example of the type of play you will get. I hit seven out of nine games in this particular parlay 2 nights ago.. However I had four other parlays which were 3 team and 4 team winners, and I've already cashed out.

Good luck at the Borgotz!

http://imgur.com/FySjRji



Oh yea, the payout on that parlay was close to 100 to 1.
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June 13th, 2019 at 9:03:48 AM permalink
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6 weeks of picks? No bueno. In addition to that, you can't just give pics in the beginning of week for the entire week. Pics are decided and given on the day of the games.



OK, I'm flexible. What would seem a valid approach to you? 4 weeks?
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June 13th, 2019 at 1:00:23 PM permalink
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A free bet is a free bet. I'm a more mathematical, conservative sort and would just put the whole wad on a near 50/50 bet. Personally, I'd put my money on the Boston Bruins.



Bad call.
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June 13th, 2019 at 1:20:36 PM permalink
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WatchMeWin, take a warning: Your last several posts have been IMHO personal insults, in words and in tone.

We get it: Axel is not your BFF and you object to his analysis.

No suspension from me, if you'd kindly lose the attitude.

Axel, please keep it courteous too.



I appreciate you coming to Axel's Defense as he was dumbfounded with my proof of 8 team parlay which he had vehemently criticized and dismissed as a reality. For the first time ever since Ive been on the forum and witnessing dozens upon dozens of insults and ruthless comments to many members of the forum, he was speechless. I take that as a complement.

However, notwithstanding the aforementioned, Axel is a big boy and he can surely dish out the insults, therefore he can take any reciprocal remarks. I actually think he is quite funny and I don't take anything personal, at all. They are compliments to me.

I only request one answer to my question.... how many fake accounts here does he have? This is something the moderators should know and monitor, no?

I certainly have the tools(multiple VPN's 10+ computers, accesses to a server, computers out of the country ), some ability, and knowledge how to make and hide multiple accounts. And I'm always trying to learn how best to hide who and where you are on the internet. And all that from the comfort of my home. So, it brings a smile to my face knowing I'm in your head and you think I have multiple fake accounts. I seems all too obvious when you go to the craps tables, when you are at work, or just sitting there chilling... you are thinking of me. I have no doubt you lay awake at night thinking and wondering what dark corner of the internet I might be lurking at and if I'll find you there and expose your dirty little secrets.

Before I answer your question, can you tell me what it is you think I'm doing with all the fake accounts on here and perhaps give an example of one you think might be me?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 13th, 2019 at 1:35:06 PM permalink
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Shame on you..... I thought you were one of the smart ones here.

Smart enough to know there are no magnets in the craps machines controlling what comes up. Smart enough to know that if there were magnets controlling what numbers come up, how to beat it silly.

Smart enough to know you can't profit from hit and run craps systems.

Smart enough to know the truth whether or not it's likely I have fake WOV accounts(even before he was a greenie).
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 13th, 2019 at 6:10:25 PM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear

WatchMeWin, take a warning: Your last several posts have been IMHO personal insults, in words and in tone.

We get it: Axel is not your BFF and you object to his analysis.

No suspension from me, if you'd kindly lose the attitude.

Axel, please keep it courteous too.



I appreciate you coming to Axel's Defense as he was dumbfounded with my proof of 8 team parlay which he had vehemently criticized and dismissed as a reality. For the first time ever since Ive been on the forum and witnessing dozens upon dozens of insults and ruthless comments to many members of the forum, he was speechless. I take that as a complement.

However, notwithstanding the aforementioned, Axel is a big boy and he can surely dish out the insults, therefore he can take any reciprocal remarks. I actually think he is quite funny and I don't take anything personal, at all. They are compliments to me.

I only request one answer to my question.... how many fake accounts here does he have? This is something the moderators should know and monitor, no?

I certainly have the tools(multiple VPN's 10+ computers, accesses to a server, computers out of the country ), some ability, and knowledge how to make and hide multiple accounts. And I'm always trying to learn how best to hide who and where you are on the internet. And all that from the comfort of my home. So, it brings a smile to my face knowing I'm in your head and you think I have multiple fake accounts. I seems all too obvious when you go to the craps tables, when you are at work, or just sitting there chilling... you are thinking of me. I have no doubt you lay awake at night thinking and wondering what dark corner of the internet I might be lurking at and if I'll find you there and expose your dirty little secrets.

Before I answer your question, can you tell me what it is you think I'm doing with all the fake accounts on here and perhaps give an example of one you think might be me?



Congratulations on priding urself as a master shadey shyster n criminal. You should be proud of your accomplishments. Be careful who you threaten, brah.. you never know who you're dealing with who wear blue.

And for the record... You have been the one stalking n trolling me... so let's be clear, I am living rent-free in your head.
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June 13th, 2019 at 7:40:44 PM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear

WatchMeWin, take a warning: Your last several posts have been IMHO personal insults, in words and in tone.

We get it: Axel is not your BFF and you object to his analysis.

No suspension from me, if you'd kindly lose the attitude.

Axel, please keep it courteous too.



I appreciate you coming to Axel's Defense as he was dumbfounded with my proof of 8 team parlay which he had vehemently criticized and dismissed as a reality. For the first time ever since Ive been on the forum and witnessing dozens upon dozens of insults and ruthless comments to many members of the forum, he was speechless. I take that as a complement.

However, notwithstanding the aforementioned, Axel is a big boy and he can surely dish out the insults, therefore he can take any reciprocal remarks. I actually think he is quite funny and I don't take anything personal, at all. They are compliments to me.

I only request one answer to my question.... how many fake accounts here does he have? This is something the moderators should know and monitor, no?

I certainly have the tools(multiple VPN's 10+ computers, accesses to a server, computers out of the country ), some ability, and knowledge how to make and hide multiple accounts. And I'm always trying to learn how best to hide who and where you are on the internet. And all that from the comfort of my home. So, it brings a smile to my face knowing I'm in your head and you think I have multiple fake accounts. I seems all too obvious when you go to the craps tables, when you are at work, or just sitting there chilling... you are thinking of me. I have no doubt you lay awake at night thinking and wondering what dark corner of the internet I might be lurking at and if I'll find you there and expose your dirty little secrets.

Before I answer your question, can you tell me what it is you think I'm doing with all the fake accounts on here and perhaps give an example of one you think might be me?



Congratulations on priding urself as a master shadey shyster n criminal. You should be proud of your accomplishments.

I think you just crossed the line there. I expect that to be removed ASAP. Having and knowing that stuff don't make you any of those things. You have no idea why I know those things and have that stuff. Someone may very well have all the tools and knowledge to break into safes and whatnot that doesn'tmake him a any of those things you mentioned. For all you know the guy is a locksmith.

I'm asking the MODS to hadle this matter if it's not edited in a timely manner.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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June 13th, 2019 at 8:34:27 PM permalink
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Congratulations on priding urself as a master shadey shyster n criminal. You should be proud of your accomplishments. Be careful who you threaten, brah.. you never know who you're dealing with who wear blue.

And for the record... You have been the one stalking n trolling me... so let's be clear, I am living rent-free in your head.



Personal insult. Per the Martingale policy, four months this time. Have a good summer.
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June 13th, 2019 at 9:33:30 PM permalink
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Personal insult. Per the Martingale policy, four months this time. Have a good summer.



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June 17th, 2019 at 1:05:33 PM permalink
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OK, I'm flexible. What would seem a valid approach to you? 4 weeks?



I'm interested. It will be fun to see how a "real world" scenario works out over the course of a month.

When does the window open?

Please confirm that we have $440 to work with each week, to place four wagers.

All wagers must be resolved within 7 days.

No parlays? or okay as long as the last leg is resolved within 7 days of the first? Does the promotion's fine print mention anything about that?
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June 20th, 2019 at 2:22:57 PM permalink
All it says is that "Wager outcome must be completed within 7 days of the date that the First Sports Wager is placed." Nothing is stated about limitations on the specific type of bet other than that so I take it to mean parlays are OK.
My understanding of sports betting (basically total ignorance) is that the bets offered and the odds (e.g., spread?) on a given bet may vary from site to site so I propose limiting wagers to those shown on Brogota's Sport Book.
My understanding is sports bets are usually made in multiples of $11, correct? If so the $440 limit makes sense. I was thinking a fixed amount per bet but maybe setting a weekly budget limit makes better sense and is more realistic. That will let you increase or decrease a given bet. Only limitation will be 4 bets per week for a total of $440.
As to when the window opens, it would be nice to get a couple more participants first but everyone else seems to be lots of talk but no action to back it. Let's say we go with the 1st Monday in July as the start and then have 4 betting cycles (Monday to Monday) ending on July 29th. If nobody else joins, it's just you and me. My strategy will be to randomly pick 4 underdogs per week.

Sounds OK to you?
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June 20th, 2019 at 2:52:37 PM permalink
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All it says is that "Wager outcome must be completed within 7 days of the date that the First Sports Wager is placed." Nothing is stated about limitations on the specific type of bet other than that so I take it to mean parlays are OK.
My understanding of sports betting (basically total ignorance) is that the bets offered and the odds (e.g., spread?) on a given bet may vary from site to site so I propose limiting wagers to those shown on Brogota's Sport Book.
My understanding is sports bets are usually made in multiples of $11, correct? If so the $440 limit makes sense. I was thinking a fixed amount per bet but maybe setting a weekly budget limit makes better sense and is more realistic. That will let you increase or decrease a given bet. Only limitation will be 4 bets per week for a total of $440.
As to when the window opens, it would be nice to get a couple more participants first but everyone else seems to be lots of talk but no action to back it. Let's say we go with the 1st Monday in July as the start and then have 4 betting cycles (Monday to Monday) ending on July 29th. If nobody else joins, it's just you and me. My strategy will be to randomly pick 4 underdogs per week.

Sounds OK to you?



Great. I think others would join in, since there is no risk (yet). Thanks for sharing.

When does the promo expire?
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June 20th, 2019 at 7:33:37 PM permalink
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Great. I think others would join in, since there is no risk (yet). Thanks for sharing.

When does the promo expire?


December 31st. Happy New Year :)
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