mtcards
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December 30th, 2021 at 8:05:55 PM permalink
At one of the casinos I regularly go to, they have a lot of the older 3 and 5 reel machines that have multiple denominations available. Generally I play the $2-$3 per spin where there are 30 lines at 10 credits per line at 1 cent per credit. They have the option of playing at the 2 cent, 5 cent and 10 cent level as well. There is no progressive, so there isnt an advantage to playing at maximum credits.

The question is this. Assuming I play 20 credits x 10 per line=$2.00 per spin regularly, is there an increased payback percentage if I play 20 credits at 5 per line at 2 cents/ 20 credits at 2 per line at 5 cents / 20 credits at 1 per line at 10 cents. Either way I am playing $2.00 per spin, but am wondering if it is general casino policy to have a higher payback on larger denominations on the same machine or if the machine is programmed for the same payback percentage regardless of denomination.
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December 31st, 2021 at 5:55:28 AM permalink
There is a chance the return goes up if you move up in denom. So playing 10 lines at a $0.01 denom would return less than 5 lines at $0.02. It's probably about a 50/50 chance you move up in denom. On old IGT machines you could tell by the symbols on the screen from the last game changing if the return changed.
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December 31st, 2021 at 11:13:26 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

There is a chance the return goes up if you move up in denom. So playing 10 lines at a $0.01 denom would return less than 5 lines at $0.02. It's probably about a 50/50 chance you move up in denom. On old IGT machines you could tell by the symbols on the screen from the last game changing if the return changed.
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Is there a different EPROM chip for each denomination on a slot machine that dictates the hold percentage….ergo 1 cent is a lower return to player (RTP) than 2 cent and so on?
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December 31st, 2021 at 2:16:40 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Quote: Wizard

There is a chance the return goes up if you move up in denom. So playing 10 lines at a $0.01 denom would return less than 5 lines at $0.02. It's probably about a 50/50 chance you move up in denom. On old IGT machines you could tell by the symbols on the screen from the last game changing if the return changed.
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Is there a different EPROM chip for each denomination on a slot machine that dictates the hold percentage….ergo 1 cent is a lower return to player (RTP) than 2 cent and so on?
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No, there is generally one EPROM or storage media that has all the percentages that the casino chooses from. Old machines may have had one for each percentage but I don't remember those.
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