onenickelmiracle
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August 29th, 2018 at 11:36:18 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

My wife and I like to play slots together and take turns hitting the spin button. When one of us hits a bonus, we let the other person start the bonus (whether it's a buffalo, cleopatra, or wheel of fortune). You get the picture. Since we're married, there is no financial conflict since it's both our money.

Ok... here is a question for you. There has been a case where a Florida man was denied his jackpot and was given to his "friend" because the jackpot is given to whomever hit the button.

http://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-news/florida-man-denied-100000-jackpot-because-friend-hit-button-instead

Now, there are a lot of slot teams that pool their money together. One of their go-to machines are high-limit wheel of fortune. They typically take turns pushing the max-bet button. When they trigger the WOF bonus, there are times when the WOF spin "honor" is bestowed to somebody special. If a jackpot is won, does the original bonus-triggering person take the W-2, or the bestowed honoree who spun the jackpot? This is why I am cautious of recreational slot teams.

The second person didn't wager any money. It's kind of like you buy a desk, and the second person just managed to put it together(or maybe the desk put itself together).
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unJon
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August 29th, 2018 at 11:41:36 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

The second person didn't wager any money. It's kind of like you buy a desk, and the second person just managed to put it together(or maybe the desk put itself together).



Thatís not a good analogy. Per the threads Iíve read on this site, the RNG for the machine only decided it was a jackpot when she pushed the button. If the man had pushed the button it would have almost certainly been differently timed and he wouldnít have won the jackpot at all.

The reason for the rule of button pusher is the winner makes perfect sense from the casinoís point of view. Thatís what the eye in the sky can see. Casino has no interest in whether the man was loaning or gifting the woman $50.
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onenickelmiracle
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August 29th, 2018 at 11:45:08 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

Thatís not a good analogy. Per the threads Iíve read on this site, the RNG for the machine only decided it was a jackpot when she pushed the button. If the man had pushed the button it would have almost certainly been differently timed and he wouldnít have won the jackpot at all.

The reason for the rule of button pusher is the winner makes perfect sense from the casinoís point of view. Thatís what the eye in the sky can see. Casino has no interest in whether the man was loaning or gifting the woman $50.

In this example, the person A gambled the money, person B just hit the WOF button to spin the wheel. All casinos care about is who wagered, the person who wagered is the winner.
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unJon
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August 29th, 2018 at 1:07:15 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

In this example, the person A gambled the money, person B just hit the WOF button to spin the wheel. All casinos care about is who wagered, the person who wagered is the winner.

And the rule is that the person that pushes the button is the person who wagered.
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FleaStiff
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August 29th, 2018 at 1:12:57 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

have the Notary sign on it too as a witness.

A notarial seal means the notary is acting as a notary and therefore can NOT be a witness to the document, just that someone signed it in the notary's presence. So a will which might require two signatures of witnesses will be deemed to have only one witness if the other witness happens to affix a notarial seal.
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August 29th, 2018 at 3:09:11 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

A notarial seal means the notary is acting as a notary and therefore can NOT be a witness to the document, just that someone signed it in the notary's presence. So a will which might require two signatures of witnesses will be deemed to have only one witness if the other witness happens to affix a notarial seal.



OK, makes sense what you wrote about the Notary. The Lawyer being a Witness to the signing still makes sense. :)
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