Vegasrider
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March 21st, 2018 at 7:48:47 AM permalink
All the casinos up here in Reno drops $1 that goes towards their promotions, without having a bad beat jackpot, except for one, the Atlantis has a mini bad beat of $5k, not a progressive. The dollar goes towards high hands, spin the wheel if you get Aces crack, $100 high full house promo every hour, etc. Rather than giving all the money away to two players who could be from out of town, they try to spread the money around making the qualifier easier.
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March 21st, 2018 at 8:00:03 AM permalink
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All the casinos up here in Reno drops $1 that goes towards their promotions, without having a bad beat jackpot, except for one, the Atlantis has a mini bad beat of $5k, not a progressive. The dollar goes towards high hands, spin the wheel if you get Aces crack, $100 high full house promo every hour, etc. Rather than giving all the money away to two players who could be from out of town, they try to spread the money around making the qualifier easier.



I think that falls in line to what TeddyBear was saying. I don't play enough poker to notice it, but it sounds like a better idea than a monster, almost unhittable jackpot. Local players prefer easier to hit, lower payouts. Whether it's in tables, slots, or lottery.
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March 21st, 2018 at 8:47:18 AM permalink
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Don't be too hard on them for the rushed response (not that I thought you were). I haven't been in there in quite a while now, but there's no doubt Boulder is still one of the few rooms in town, especially within the Station chain, that really starts filling up that early on a weekday. So they were likely to be a lot more harried than most with starting multiple games & whatnot. BTW & FWIW, regardless of titles & protocol unless something has radically changed Mark really runs that room & has for years.



Thank you for sticking up for Boulder Station and pointing that out!

I just meant to say that she seemed busy, not that I had a problem with her being busy. If she's busy, she's busy. My point was only that I will call a different property who may not be busy because the conversation can be more casual, which will get me more detailed information.

I was in telemarketing for a couple years, both as a TSR and supervisor, so I basically go off of voice cues when it comes to stuff like that. Catherine was extremely polite and answered my questions in as quick a way as possible while still answering the question. Everything about the phone call was fine.

I mainly let her go out of courtesy. I'm sure she would have answered more specific questions had I asked them. I'm a couple thousand miles away, so I wanted to let her get on to more important things.
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March 21st, 2018 at 8:54:47 AM permalink
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...Rather than giving all the money away to two players who could be from out of town, they try to spread the money around making the qualifier easier.

On a poker discussion board specific to Las Vegas we had a long running discussion and general consensus that this approach you describe in Reno was sensible and beneficial to everybody, definitely including players, with reasoning much like what Teddy said. Even in Las Vegas, and even among the rooms in Strip resorts with heavy tourist business, enormous and relatively infrequent lottery jackpot style big bucks use of the promo fund is believed by many to be more likely to result in the money leaving the poker economy. And I agree. Of course you can't very well insist that somehow a five figure + windfall gets put in play where most players who pay into it and will never get any such whopper payout in their lives would have a shot at getting their share of promo bucks back.

And even when most players are not local, the hugemongous type payouts to a few random luckboxes are a lot more likely to become 4,847 lap dances in the Champagne Room at Cheetahs and a visit to the Ferrari dealer or showing off their (temporary & well-lubricated) high-roller studly-ness in front of a gaggle of hookers on their arm at a roulette wheel or some such. Which is a dead loss to poker people, rather than splashing it around among all the other players paying the promo drop like most common high-hand & similar frequent payout stuff does, even when it tops up the chip stack of people in funny hats in town for a convention for only a week. And I find that the people working in most poker rooms are usually most interested specifically in the well being of the poker business, including a genuine rooting interest in their players being as solvent and loose as possible. So when they have a say in it (and sometimes they don't) the poker staff folk including supervisors & room management people often prefer promos that don't have a lot of that promo drop suddenly walk out, even if it was going just a little ways to puke it to the house in the pit or on some other quick big ticket indulgences at the same property.

In other words, what he & he said.
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March 21st, 2018 at 9:01:57 AM permalink
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I just meant to say that she seemed busy, not that I had a problem with her being busy.

Understood, and I figured you most likely understood how the work flow in a customer driven environment like that can ebb and flow. Just thought it might be a useful tidbit of info that the timing of Boulder's poker business does tend to differ a bit from a lot of other rooms, including some in the same company.
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March 21st, 2018 at 7:48:36 PM permalink
Honestly I prefer playing in a room that doesn't have a $1 drop for a bad beat or any promotions for that matter. Pay the rake and tipping the dealer is all the chips needed to be removed from the table. That's why I primarily played at the Bellagio when I lived in Vegas, but have been known to play at other rooms like RR.
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March 21st, 2018 at 10:22:58 PM permalink
Yes, to me it's like being forced to buy a lottery ticket when you came to order lunch. But given who actually likes that crap and believes they are surely due to win it any moment now and how they tend to play with the chips in front of them on the felt, I get used to doing the following procedure: paste a smile on my face, and endure the background noise of painfully brain-dead promo-imbecile chatter by cranking up the volume on my headphones while nodding with a vapid idiot grin whenever promo-dunce babble is being yammered in my direction.

If I had my way I'd like to have the following splash-pot promo available for those who choose the option, say by posting a little red button in front of them. Then if I do that, and I will with a genuine grin, I won't be eligible for whatever the "double somersault with a twisty dismount on a purple unicorn in a cash volcano" promo of the month might be. But every pot I win will be splashed with a dollar chip. The one that would've been dropped in the promo box. While the pots are still fed by some "poker" promo people. Wheeeee, winner-winner!

I can dream.
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March 21st, 2018 at 11:05:00 PM permalink
In Calgary, Alberta you can opt out of the bad beat jackpot. They donít take the $1 on pots you win. I personally hate any poker room promo which involves more rake/promo dollars coming off the table. The only good thing that they bring which I obviously like is the ploppies chasing the big cash pay out. Ploppies love a long shot.
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March 22nd, 2018 at 6:55:54 AM permalink
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In Calgary, Alberta you can opt out of the bad beat jackpot. They donít take the $1 on pots you win. I personally hate any poker room promo which involves more rake/promo dollars coming off the table. The only good thing that they bring which I obviously like is the ploppies chasing the big cash pay out. Ploppies love a long shot.



That's an unintended consequence that I think a lot of people (not people on here) in general don't consider. They'll stay in hands longer, with less outs, just acting as a calling station for the almost non existent chance of a bad beat hand.
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March 22nd, 2018 at 4:55:05 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Honestly I prefer playing in a room that doesn't have a $1 drop for a bad beat or any promotions for that matter. Pay the rake and tipping the dealer is all the chips needed to be removed from the table. That's why I primarily played at the Bellagio when I lived in Vegas, but have been known to play at other rooms like RR.



If that extra dollar bought you a supply of weaker players who are chasing the promotions, compared to no dollar and a field of more skilled players, would that make a difference?

Having played in a lot of different places, on the whole, places with more promotions tend to have looser games.
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