7outlineaway
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June 13th, 2011 at 12:15:22 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Because it's so stupefying. Ever hear of professional Big Six players?



Actually, I'm surprised no one ever brings up the possibility of Big Six dealers clocking the wheel when people discuss it with roulette all the time. Although the house edge is higher in Big Six I think it would be much easier to do.

It's a fun game to watch, though. They should call it the Idiot Wheel, and instead of numbers, the spaces in the wheel should be the letters in the word "IDIOT". I would be even money, D 2:1, O 5:1 and T 10:1 or something like that.
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June 13th, 2011 at 12:38:47 PM permalink
Many places force the dealer to spin the wheel in alternating directions so as to keep people from estimating where it will stop. The usual bet made by wheel analysts is on the Joker/Logo bet at 40:1 or 45:1 whenever they are of the opinion that they know which half of the wheel is the more likely result based upon the dealer's reported habits.
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June 13th, 2011 at 1:09:59 PM permalink
Quote: 7outlineaway

Actually, I'm surprised no one ever brings up the possibility of Big Six dealers clocking the wheel when people discuss it with roulette all the time. Although the house edge is higher in Big Six I think it would be much easier to do.

I would think clocking Big Six is even harder.

Have you ever watched the dealer spin that wheel? He generally gives it THREE pushes. That should be more than enough that it's hard even for the dealer to hit a zone he is shooting for, much less a specific number his accomplice is betting on.

And depending on the dealer/casino, he may call "no more bets" before the first push.

And don't forget, unlike roulette where all numbers in a clocked target zone pay 35:1, the big wheel has 1:1 almost every other number, making zone shooting worthless.
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June 13th, 2011 at 1:13:35 PM permalink
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And don't forget, unlike roulette where all numbers in a clocked target zone pay 35:1, the big wheel has 1:1 almost every other number, making zone shooting worthless.

I've given it more thought, and take it back.

If a dealer could hit a small zone around a joker consistantly, he will hit the joker enough for his accomplice to make a profit.

However, I suspect that it wouldn't take long for surveilance to discover a dealer that is doing that.
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:05:23 PM permalink
Every weekday at Ellis Island they offer Advantage Play Bingo at either 9 or 10 am( I forget which)
But you do have to bring your own marker. Absolutely no sharing of markers; that is a solid rule in Ellis Island Bingo.

Over time you can't help but come out ahead.

As for comps. Well, Wild Bill and I go together and make a side bet on who pays for breakfast based on the Bingo results,
so it is accurate to say that one of us is comped breakfast as well each time we play.
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:14:21 PM permalink
Quote: 7outlineaway

Actually, I'm surprised no one ever brings up the possibility of Big Six dealers clocking the wheel when people discuss it with roulette all the time. Although the house edge is higher in Big Six I think it would be much easier to do.



I agree that advantage play does not get the attention it deserves. I've done a little of that. The problem is only the joker and logo bets are clockable. It is a slow game and the volatility is high. Personally, it isn't worth my time, but APs with nothing better to do should consider it, especially in Atlantic City, where the joker and logo pay 45-1.
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EvenBob
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June 14th, 2011 at 4:44:52 PM permalink
I looked at the Big 6 and I don't see a way to beat it. Having it come to a complete stop is what makes it so effective and unpredictable.
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Ayecarumba
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June 14th, 2011 at 6:35:18 PM permalink
What is the advantage of playing in a hall with lots of Bingo players vs. less players? The parimutual pool may be larger, but each game has a winner, so it would seem logical that your chances of winning are increased by 1) less competitors; and 2) having more cards than anyone else. I don't see the advantage to participating in any "large" game, as you must beat that many more cards.

This is where the advent of wireless devices (now with color touch screens) have revolutionized the game. Daubers are going the way of the CD, and you will not see them in use within five years. The wireless devices ensure that you will not miss a bingo due to fatigue or slow blotting.... Well, you could miss it if you fall asleep and miss the machine playing "Your in the Money".
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FleaStiff
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June 14th, 2011 at 6:58:29 PM permalink
I'm not sure but I think the desirability of a large turnout is dependent upon their being some bonus that will be distributed if anyone in the room hits it. So the more players the greater the chance someone will hit it. As I said, I don't play Bingo so this is just memories of prior discussions.

Its like a bonus in a poker room. You play poker and hope the bonus hits that night because everyone gets a piece of the bonus.
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June 15th, 2011 at 1:58:22 PM permalink
I played bingo with my mom, sister, and my sister's boyfriend last night. We agreed to split any winnings. Of course I was the only winner. Splitting $25 is no fun, so we played "slots" (actually bingo disguised as slots) . Got it up to $95 and decided that was good enough. I used to play bingo all the time. It gets boring after a while, but once every few months it's ok.
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