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DJTeddyBear
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October 5th, 2020 at 2:23:21 PM permalink
Matt -

I agree with you.

However, with the way TRIPLE zero roulette is gaining installs, your wish for French Roulette and the Cayetano Money Back variant don稚 have much chance of being offered. At least not with all the money grubbing corporate casinos here in the USA.
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October 5th, 2020 at 3:07:09 PM permalink
Oh Teddy, don't go where you're mistaken for a fool. Head to whoever still has French Roulette with La Partage and bet on Red! That's the best roulette bet in Las Vegas. And the whole USA for that matter.
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October 5th, 2020 at 3:44:32 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

That said, why would the casino offer this? Perhaps THEY don稚 understand the math.



This is purely a guess but I could see one motivation being keeping people at the table. Maybe the hope is people will get in the hole with the bet and then stick around longer than they normally would trying to hit it to get a big score. I don稚 like roulette but I know many people who do and they find it extremely painful to walk away from a wheel and then see a number/numbers hit that would result in a big payday. I see that effect x10 here. (350 vs 35:1 to really drive home the regret of walking). Anyway, just a guess.
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MattUK
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October 5th, 2020 at 4:46:38 PM permalink
Where exactly is the problem? Not in the house edge as it's still above even single 0 roulette. That one bet is not awful doesn't mean that "THEY don稚 understand the math" as Teddy put it. It's merely ironic that the side bet is better than the main game.

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I see that effect x10 here. (350 vs 35:1 to really drive home the regret of walking).


Good point. I think somebody tried to make it 10x maximum on normal roulette. Which you can make only by making the hit frequency around 10 times rarer, obviously. I don't feel this extension is really that necessary.
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October 5th, 2020 at 5:19:40 PM permalink
Quote: MattUK

Oh Teddy, don't go where you're mistaken for a fool. Head to whoever still has French Roulette with La Partage and bet on Red! That's the best roulette bet in Las Vegas. And the whole USA for that matter.



Single-zero and especially French roulette have high minimums here in the US that most players would not be comfortable with.
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MattUK
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October 5th, 2020 at 5:25:50 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Single-zero and especially French roulette have high minimums here in the US that most players would not be comfortable with.


Of course, good bets are for VIPs only. Pity, really. You can bet 10 GBP on La Partage pretty much everywhere for a 5 GBP salvaged on 0.
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October 5th, 2020 at 5:36:07 PM permalink
Quote: MattUK

Of course, good bets are for VIPs only. Pity, really. You can bet 10 GBP on La Partage pretty much everywhere for a 5 GBP salvaged on 0.



Be thankful for that. Here the casino management thinking is, "Let's double the house edge by adding a zero, these stupid player will probably play MORE. " The sad thing is -- they would probably be right.
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Vegasrider
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October 5th, 2020 at 8:35:38 PM permalink
So what am I supposed to do? Place an equal bet on red and black and just play this side bet?

I haven稚 played roulette in a decade, but I do look at the electronic boards frequently just to see the patterns of the numbers come up and I have seen back to back numbers come up, so two back to back greens is very possible, especially when there is two.
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October 6th, 2020 at 1:12:11 AM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

So what am I supposed to do? Place an equal bet on red and black and just play this side bet?



There's a spot for it on the layout, above the 0-00 area.

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FleaStiff
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October 6th, 2020 at 1:30:55 AM permalink
I am confused, will try to read guide.

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