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July 7th, 2021 at 11:31:23 AM permalink
One of my friend is addicted to the gambling. I always ask him to play carefully, but he always ended up with the money loss. Do you have any idea how can I help him to get out of this addiction?

Thanks in advance
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July 7th, 2021 at 11:35:57 AM permalink
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One of my friend is addicted to the gambling. I always ask him to play carefully, but he always ended up with the money loss. Do you have any idea how can I help him to get out of this addiction?

Thanks in advance



Turn him on to crack. Many crack addicts are former gamblers who realized there were better things to do with their money than hand it to casinos. Get them good and hooked and I promise you they will forget all about casinos.
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July 7th, 2021 at 11:50:58 AM permalink
What form of gaming is he hooked on?
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July 7th, 2021 at 12:42:54 PM permalink
Like other addictions, you can’t help until he asks for your help.

Until then, contact 1-800-gambler for advice so you’ll be ready when he asks.
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July 7th, 2021 at 5:32:03 PM permalink
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I always ask him to play carefully, but he always ended up with the money loss.



Documentation of the money loss may be helpful.
A player report showing the net loss, or some notes tracking of the buyin/cashout.

Several people I know suddenly had motivation to stop (or seek help) once they saw that last year's net loss could have paid off the mortgage or bought a pretty nice RV.

If he's not ready for help, most anything you do will be seen as meddlesome interference, and he is likely to gamble more in an attempt to prove you wrong. Some variant of this is common across many addictions.

Good luck in your efforts.
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July 7th, 2021 at 6:30:22 PM permalink
Are the losses hurting him and his family financially? Just because one gambles regularly and loses regularly does not make it a problem. I know a few people that play video poker regularly and probably lose $1000 a week but for them it is entertainment they can afford.
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July 13th, 2021 at 10:56:46 AM permalink
He is addicted to play blackjack and lottery. Sadly he invested half of his savings on lottery
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July 13th, 2021 at 10:57:54 AM permalink
He is addicted to play blackjack and lottery. Sadly he invested half of his savings on lottery
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July 13th, 2021 at 10:58:59 AM permalink
Thanks. If there will be no option left, then I will contact them.
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July 13th, 2021 at 11:01:07 AM permalink
yes, I will try this and hopefully I will get some positive response from him. Thank you for your suggestion.
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July 13th, 2021 at 11:05:17 AM permalink
I told him to play responsibly or else don't jump in the gambling world but its too late now. sadly he and his family is getting hurt mentally and financially as well.
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July 13th, 2021 at 9:43:52 PM permalink
I have to echo the sentiments that there is nothing much you can do until your friend admits the problem. Maybe an intervention would help, I don't know. As someone else said, I would trust GA to give better advice than you'll find here.
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July 14th, 2021 at 8:29:02 AM permalink
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I told him to play responsibly or else don't jump in the gambling world but its too late now. sadly he and his family is getting hurt mentally and financially as well.

You are a good friend. Blackjack might be the most addicting game of all. The winning and losing is constantly working on ones emotions.

So, Im going to give you an odd suggestion. Qfit. Verite is a blackjack game that can be dowloaded to his computer. Norm states it's exactly like playing in a casino. Ive ask him 2 or 3 times, are you sure? I see no reason to doubt his word.

Point is, your friend could identify some of the glaring mistakes he is making. One might compare it to filtered cigarettes for a smoker.

Norm and his group will say 10k hands is too small of a sample. But if he will play out 10k hands exactly the way he plays in a casino? He will learn the most important factor in the game. Himself.
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July 16th, 2021 at 11:10:00 AM permalink
Yet another player latched on to me at some point recently. As usual, turned out to be a mistake. Couldn’t help the player and ended up a complete waste of time and energy. Player had already dumped a huge amount elsewhere, and at the casino where I was playing at my private table I helped the player get up well over a hundred K no less than three times, but each time after I went to sleep the player kept going until morning and dumped it all. Notwithstanding a final monster run the player left in the red. After left I tried to talk to the player and player kept saying, “Why can’t I stop when I am ahead?”

Besides the tragicomic comments the player was making while was losing at the tables (“I lost ______. I neglected my business, my clients, everything. What am I doing here.”) I ran into the host I had set the player up with, and host was saying that talked to the player after left town and finally had to say to the player, “I’m just a host, not a therapist.” 😟 😅 Sorry, but how tragicomic can you get.
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July 16th, 2021 at 11:24:29 AM permalink
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You are a good friend. Blackjack might be the most addicting game of all. The winning and losing is constantly working on ones emotions.

So, Im going to give you an odd suggestion. Qfit. Verite is a blackjack game that can be dowloaded to his computer. Norm states it's exactly like playing in a casino. Ive ask him 2 or 3 times, are you sure? I see no reason to doubt his word.

Point is, your friend could identify some of the glaring mistakes he is making. One might compare it to filtered cigarettes for a smoker.

Norm and his group will say 10k hands is too small of a sample. But if he will play out 10k hands exactly the way he plays in a casino? He will learn the most important factor in the game. Himself.



The most addictive game of all? I guess maybe for some. It usually only takes me doubling eleven against a dealer six, catching a nine and the dealer drawing to 21 once to nullify any desire to play Blackjack I might have for ten years, or so.

Maybe it's because I don't really get that much out of winning and losing seriously P!$$3$ me off?
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July 19th, 2021 at 10:36:31 AM permalink
Yes, I think this is least I can do.
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July 19th, 2021 at 11:05:32 AM permalink
Have him ban himself from all the casinos in his area. That will do it for the casino blackjack playing,

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July 19th, 2021 at 12:25:08 PM permalink
Haha!!! As if any of you go out of your way to identify and remove self-excluded people absent them hitting a jackpot you can void.
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July 19th, 2021 at 12:46:41 PM permalink
Hey it's no different then when you think you got a good deal on a car that's worth $24,000 easily and you made a deal for $8,000 and the guy says he'll give you the paperwork at a later time as soon as he goes in and gets it. And on the way home as you're driving, you get pulled over and arrested for GTA because you got just a little bit greedy on your deal. No darn different.

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July 19th, 2021 at 12:49:55 PM permalink
You know what: I’m going to give you credit for basically owning it. That was better than I expected…I’d already started researching instances in addition to the three or four I had off the top of my head.
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July 28th, 2021 at 12:55:52 PM permalink
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Yet another player latched on to me at some point recently. As usual, turned out to be a mistake. Couldn’t help the player and ended up a complete waste of time and energy. Player had already dumped a huge amount elsewhere, and at the casino where I was playing at my private table I helped the player get up well over a hundred K no less than three times, but each time after I went to sleep the player kept going until morning and dumped it all. Notwithstanding a final monster run the player left in the red. After left I tried to talk to the player and player kept saying, “Why can’t I stop when I am ahead?”

Besides the tragicomic comments the player was making while was losing at the tables (“I lost ______. I neglected my business, my clients, everything. What am I doing here.”) I ran into the host I had set the player up with, and host was saying that talked to the player after left town and finally had to say to the player, “I’m just a host, not a therapist.” 😟 😅 Sorry, but how tragicomic can you get.


This player has now dumped a cool million between two very short trips. That is astonishing to me. I mean, here I've been in Vegas playing somewhat regularly for over four months, and am actually ahead, and this player dumps a million in a blink of an eye - playing at regular 20K limit tables! What I mean is, if the player had been here four plus months as I have, and dumped a mill, okay, terrible, but not incredible. But to dump that much in just days...wow.

Now, in that player's case, I can't understand why such a person would even keep playing. Claims to have dumped $2M over the past 10 years, and $1M in just the past two very short trips (about a week or even less, each). From what I gather, this player has never won. As in - almost no winning sessions and absolutely no winning trips. Why even keep playing?

Someone like that is a straight gambling addict from the gate.

The more general progression of LOSERMANIA in my opinion works like this. A player might be a disciplined person capable of walking away ahead, and keeping losses small or at worst on par with wins. Then at some point the player loses control and starts losing more than wins. Eventually gets to where the player may never win and just keeps playing until loses it all every time. This is the progression described by the OP. In my opinion, once someone gets to that point of addiction there is no U-Turn and should just quit.

I believe this is the progression described in all addictions - alcoholism, drug addiction, gambling - etc. where once a person crosses the line the only or at least best solution is complete abstinence.
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June 16th, 2023 at 4:59:48 AM permalink
just wondering how's your friend now
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October 9th, 2023 at 9:03:44 PM permalink
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One of my friend is addicted to the gambling. I always ask him to play carefully, but he always ended up with the money loss. Do you have any idea how can I help him to get out of this addiction?

Thanks in advance
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I can relate to your concern. Addiction is tough. You can support your friend by encouraging open conversations about their gambling habits and suggesting they seek professional help like counseling or support groups. Ultimately, they need to take the initiative, but your support can be crucial in their recovery journey.
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October 9th, 2023 at 10:03:39 PM permalink
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One of my friend is addicted to the gambling. I always ask him to play carefully, but he always ended up with the money loss. Do you have any idea how can I help him to get out of this addiction?

Thanks in advance
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You can't. The person has to decide and do it when they are ready. Usually after it's too late.


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October 10th, 2023 at 2:29:35 AM permalink
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Yet another player latched on to me at some point recently. As usual, turned out to be a mistake. Couldn’t help the player and ended up a complete waste of time and energy.

Are you wondering if you in fact can't help and such attempts make you just an enabler? Here you are presenting yourself as what he wants to be ... he wants to be like you and doesn't know how. For a guy with a problem, how is he going to get 'help' from such as you?
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October 10th, 2023 at 10:48:12 AM permalink
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One of my friend is addicted to the gambling. I always ask him to play carefully, but he always ended up with the money loss. Do you have any idea how can I help him to get out of this addiction?

Thanks in advance
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October 21st, 2023 at 3:27:29 AM permalink
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One of my friend is addicted to the gambling. I always ask him to play carefully, but he always ended up with the money loss. Do you have any idea how can I help him to get out of this addiction?

Thanks in advance
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If your friend is resistant to seeking help or doesn't respond positively to your efforts, consider involving other close friends or family members who can offer additional support. Remember that professional intervention is often necessary for effective treatment, so encourage your friend to reach out to addiction specialists.
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