EvenBob
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January 17th, 2014 at 4:34:48 PM permalink
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Has anybody actually tried using a VPN? Has anybody
played online in NJ? Do they seem fair?
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January 28th, 2014 at 11:46:32 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: anttsaon

us vpn WILL HELP YOU CHANGE IP ADDRESS



Has anybody actually tried using a VPN? Has anybody
played online in NJ? Do they seem fair?


I play online a bit. The first time I have played online is when NJ legalized it since it is so heavily regulated (I am probably paranoid but I would not trust an unregulated foreign casino to be fair). Everything seems fair, poker is obviously fair. But the table games like blackjack and baccarat are also awesome. And the thing I like most is you can go right to the casino (I live 10mins from AC) get cash for your online winnings unlike other online casinos that say you may have to wait 8weeks for a physical check or 3-8 days for bank transfer. But I still prefer actual casinos.
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January 28th, 2014 at 12:11:29 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: anttsaon

us vpn WILL HELP YOU CHANGE IP ADDRESS



Has anybody actually tried using a VPN? Has anybody
played online in NJ? Do they seem fair?



I use VPNs all the time. Not for this purpose, though. It's really not a big deal, although you have to trust the people running the VPN though (since they can read all your traffic that is not end-to-end encrypted). Really it's not that different from an ISP.
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January 28th, 2014 at 8:50:49 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: anttsaon

us vpn WILL HELP YOU CHANGE IP ADDRESS



Has anybody actually tried using a VPN? Has anybody
played online in NJ? Do they seem fair?



I used a VPN extensively in 2009 to QA a product on their mainframe. It was extremely reliable, but as someone else noted, you must inherently trust the VPN company/server. Your system is wide open to them, as if you were using a very long phone line direct-dialed into their computer, which then acts as your computer with you on a dumb terminal. (Which, I suppose, is the point since you need an IP that registers inside NJ to play.) It's a two-way partition, (Editing here: depending on how they set it up, you can save files either to their computer or to your own, and you can manipulate programs on their computer) ; if they're responsible, part of their job will be to lock off your access to most of their internal drives and files.

That is the sum total of what I know about how it worked; I'm sure there are engineers and programmers who can get into the details with you if necessary.
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January 28th, 2014 at 9:16:41 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Has anybody actually tried using a VPN? Has anybody
played online in NJ? Do they seem fair?



I live in and play online poker in NJ so no VPN necessary for me. All the usual badbeats so it's real, online poker. This state heavily regulates its casino industry so I would believe the games are 100% fair. In fact, this state was so heavily regulated they had to cut back somewhat to be overregulated.

I don't think a VPN would work anyway. You need a wireless network turned on in your computer but you don't need to connect to the gambling site with it. They scan the available wireless networks around you as well as your IP to geolocate you in NJ. If you're in the boonies or the houses are widely spaced as in rural areas, you may not be able to play.

You also can not have any remote access software running on your computer and in some cases it can't even be installed and must be removed because some of them initiate on bootup and you can't end them through processes or any other method. Teamviewer is no good but it can be disabled. There is a list available.
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January 29th, 2014 at 1:30:48 AM permalink
Can someone answer BOB's question and not talk about VPN's as they relate to using them for non serious stuff. Obviously they thought about people using VPN's

Let me ask it in a different way has anyone successfully been able to get onto NJ online casinos from a different state, feel free to PM me. I would be very grateful for the information.
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January 29th, 2014 at 12:48:38 PM permalink
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Can someone answer BOB's question and not talk about VPN's as they relate to using them for non serious stuff. Obviously they thought about people using VPN's

Let me ask it in a different way has anyone successfully been able to get onto NJ online casinos from a different state, feel free to PM me. I would be very grateful for the information.



Axel,

I think I did; my modem dialed their mainframe thru the VPN window, and I was hooked directly in as if my keyboard was connected to their computer by a cord 5 feet away. I don't think on an outbound IP from there, anyone can backtrack to where I was in FL (they were in CA).

You might also look into a program called hamachi, by which (with the agreement of the other party, but it can be a person on a PC, doesn't have to be a server network) you can take direct control over a distant computer and use your keyboard and mouse to use their computer. The IP would be theirs to any third party, not yours. No idea if NJ's got a way of detecting this use, but it's a common tool for programmers, so it's not like a secret. My Java tutor used this with our exercises all the time.
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AxelWolf
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April 10th, 2019 at 11:19:31 PM permalink
Interesting, in a bad way IMO.

I was able to sign up and make an account at Borgata online from NV. That's cool, I get that. But then they let me make a deposit using my CC, I just can't play from my location. How crazy is that? I called and they said they would refund my money back to my CC at any time I ask. I guess I will see if that's the case. I didn't ask for it just then in the off chance it would let me play. It wanted me to download a location tracker but I declined.

I just cant see any good reason they would let you deposit from a different state, especially one so far away. I can see how this might help if someone wanted to load up their account avoiding the daily limits if they were planning on going there.

I take it I could also just cash out my funds at the casino? Not sure how much you can load up but It seems like you could avoid traveling with cash to AC by doing this. Perhaps they make you load it back to your CC and you can only cash out anything above your deposit? If not, it seems to me that people could rape their CC company if they wanted to.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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