DJTeddyBear
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March 6th, 2012 at 8:16:46 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Actually, DC is where it is because it is the bet most at risk to past-posting. In dealer school it was beaten into our heads to collect that bet as fast as possible after a loss and to watch for the past-post.

If so, then it seems to me that the DC box should be further away from where player's can reach it.
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AZDuffman
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March 6th, 2012 at 8:31:07 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

If so, then it seems to me that the DC box should be further away from where player's can reach it.



It is where it is so the dealers can snatch losers fast. Avoids the "savanah" past post where you remove losers not place winners.
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TIMSPEED
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March 6th, 2012 at 8:37:29 AM permalink
I think all the problem is...
Is I got a bunch of dealers that HATE the game of craps and/or gambling in general...
The place caps their tips at a certain amount, so if they make MORE tips than that, they have to pay the casino that much back...
That, and probably 90% of the time, for their 8 hour shifts, they're just standing there zoning out with NO action...so why would they want to have action, when they're not really making any MORE money by HAVING action (as opposed to just standing there zoning out or watching TV and making $7 an hour)
For all the dealers on this forum,
I know you WANT the players to win...it's absolutely the opposite at the house I play. (Just a real "sweat the money" joint)
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
Triplell
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March 6th, 2012 at 9:06:40 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

True, it is our job. Some people make it easy for us and are easy to deal to - gracious, for lack of an even more positive and better word, and some are insufferable jerks. It is a totally mixed bag. One guy was being a jerk to a cocktail waitress, and he later complained of feeling dizzy, and that his drink tasted funny. Personally I believe he was making it up.


Good job, good for you. I love nights like that. I tend to overstay a bit and lose some back, just so as long as I leave on the plus side.


Supervisors know their dealers and players, and weigh all opinions and feelings against their experience and knowledge, and in that light.
If a player was being a stroker, making all sorts of daffy bets, overworking the dealers, and then announces to the boxman that he stiffed the dealers and complains of being called an idiot, the supervisor might think, "well yeah, that would make sense, I can see that..." while saying, "Oh, I am soooo sorry to hear that, I shall repremand the dealer..." - having been a dealer who had dealt to such people, and to be inclined to be of that opinion. What I am saying here is that people are people, they have feelings and opinions, and if you act with inconsideration, you recieve less consideration, all feelings of "well, it's their JOB, and I shall report them to the floorman, and to the Better Business Bureau, and to my congressman," etc., etc., etc.

Edit: dealers should say at first, 'drop me a dollar, - so I can give you $15 in three red chips instead of $14, and spare you a lot of white chips,' and most players eventually can figure out what is going on.

I also say, "please allow the dealers to pay out the winning bets before booking the new bets as a consideration..."

I'm trying to calc payoffs for all sorts of oddball prop bets when a 12 hits, and I got three guys throwing in fistfulls of white chips yelling, "Lemme get a three-way Uptown Julie Brown and a three-way Seagram's 7&7 with a Lo-Lo-Yo-Momma, and three-way action with the shooter's wife and girlfriend, an Around the World bet, $250 for the hour, $150 for the half..." - it can really sound that daffy.



I should note that the next guy who came in was very good. I am usually a pretty laid back person, and pretty quiet at the craps table (except for some excitement)...I bet pretty systematicly, hardly pressing my bets. The next guy was able to figure everything out within a few rolls

"Ok, so you are laying all the numbers, when a point hits, you want to buy the 4/10, and place the 6/8. Bring down your 9/5. You then put a $5 come bet out."...

I usually bet pretty consistently...This lady just truely enjoyed arguing with people (and she felt that my bet was a point to call me out on)...
thecesspit
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March 6th, 2012 at 9:56:11 AM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

The place caps their tips at a certain amount, so if they make MORE tips than that, they have to pay the casino that much back..



Why would I tip the dealers at a joint like this? Wow, the casino gets a cut of extra tips? Madness.
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ewjones080
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March 6th, 2012 at 10:24:05 AM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

I think all the problem is...
Is I got a bunch of dealers that HATE the game of craps and/or gambling in general...
The place caps their tips at a certain amount, so if they make MORE tips than that, they have to pay the casino that much back...
That, and probably 90% of the time, for their 8 hour shifts, they're just standing there zoning out with NO action...so why would they want to have action, when they're not really making any MORE money by HAVING action (as opposed to just standing there zoning out or watching TV and making $7 an hour)
For all the dealers on this forum,
I know you WANT the players to win...it's absolutely the opposite at the house I play. (Just a real "sweat the money" joint)



Okay now I know you're making things up and just trying to mess with people. Is Troll the right term? There's no way a casino would cap their dealer tips. If they did, tables would disappear in a hurry. I sure as shit wouldn't work there if I knew making more than $20/hr in tips couldn't be possible.
buzzpaff
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March 6th, 2012 at 10:26:57 AM permalink
Quote: ewjones080

Okay now I know you're making things up and just trying to mess with people. Is Troll the right term? There's no way a casino would cap their dealer tips. If they did, tables would disappear in a hurry. I sure as shit wouldn't work there if I knew making more than $20/hr in tips couldn't be possible.



Never underestimate the stupidity of management. The Teller House in Central City decided to go " no tipping". Without any increase in base pay for employees. Gee, I wonder why that casino closed a few months after instituting that policy ?
TIMSPEED
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March 6th, 2012 at 10:38:04 AM permalink
Quote: ewjones080

Okay now I know you're making things up and just trying to mess with people. Is Troll the right term? There's no way a casino would cap their dealer tips. If they did, tables would disappear in a hurry. I sure as shit wouldn't work there if I knew making more than $20/hr in tips couldn't be possible.


I called BS myself...until I asked the only dealer that's my age, and he said YES, and he wishes they'd lay him off so he could get unemployment...the tips are capped at +$10 per hour per dealer...like I said, this isn't T4T, it isn't even shift for shift...
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buzzpaff
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March 6th, 2012 at 10:45:15 AM permalink
I have no reason to doubt what Timspeed says about tips being capped. None at all.
CrapsForever
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March 6th, 2012 at 11:23:31 AM permalink
I hate it when the dealer just happens to pass the dice to the shooter with a "7" showing on the side of the dice facing the shooter. Most crap players only focus on the "7" not showing on the top, they don't check the face of the dice. Call it coincidence but in my years of playing craps; I have noticed an inordinate amount of 7's being rolled when I see a 7 on the face of the dice.

Dealer, please pass me the dice with no 7's adding up on the top or side of the dice. This common courtesy will be reflected in the tips you receive from me.
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