DeMango
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January 13th, 2017 at 12:33:54 PM permalink
Greed is getting to you. The most efficient system will only use one bet. Try the DC.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
SanchoPanza
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January 13th, 2017 at 1:55:49 PM permalink
Quote: Playinnow

I run into more streaks of shooters hitting numbers than I do 7 winners.

You're at the wrong table(s).
WatchMeWin
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January 14th, 2017 at 10:45:31 AM permalink
Getting through the first come out roll is the problem for the DC player. Otherwise, I would play it all day. Every now and then I will lay the 4 or 10 at any given moment of a roll. It wins quite often... seems like more that 2 to 1 . But if it is a 'hot' table and the dealer tells me there have been a lot of 4s or 10s rolled, I will stay away form laying.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
WatchMeWin
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January 14th, 2017 at 10:57:23 AM permalink
Here is another way of playing for protection. If you don't mind playing the don't pass and getting past the first roll. I put 500 on the dont pass and 25 yo for protection. Just need to stay away from a 7 on come out. Once the point is made, I put 650 across the board, which is 100 a number. Say the point established is 5. Now if the 7 comes right away, I lose 150 (650 on numbers - 500 dont pass). If the 5 is made buck shot, I lose 360 (500 dont pass -140 payout on 5). But if there are some numbers thrown... after the first roll i take in the 140 or 200 payout. Second roll, I press the point number. So if it the number rolled is a 10, I will press the point (5) to 300. Now, I cant lose and I will just hope for a long roll of box numbers. But I am hedged with no risk. If the 7 comes next, I break even, If the 5 is made, I will win 420 on the payout, plus I made 200 previously, plus the first roll of 140.. but i lose the 500 dont. So I made about 250ish. But if the shooter rolls for a while, which is what everyone wants and hopes for, I can make a good amount of money at no risk. Getting passed the first few rolls is the only time at risk.
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Playinnow
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January 14th, 2017 at 12:19:31 PM permalink
I should mention that I am relatively new to the game so some of my questions or comments may seem confusing.
So although you play the Don't Pass, after the point is established you play the numbers, I thought that would mean I was betting against myself?
I guess I see this as a way to be more involved in every throw and having a chance to win something while I wait on the 7 to hit?

Thanks for your help.
FleaStiff
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January 14th, 2017 at 12:56:05 PM permalink
Quote: Playinnow

I should mention that I am relatively new to the game so some of my questions or comments may seem confusing.
So although you play the Don't Pass, after the point is established you play the numbers, I thought that would mean I was betting against myself?
I guess I see this as a way to be more involved in every throw and having a chance to win something while I wait on the 7 to hit?

Thanks for your help.


Stick to proper terminology it will help you learn.

PASS LINE BET made just before the dice 'come out', "puck" is OFF and dark.
COME BET made on subsequent rolls so the players do not have to stand there waiting for the next come out roll.

DONT PASS BET... made just before the come out roll, "puck" is OFF and dark.
DONT COME BET....made on subsequent rolls so the player does not have to wait around for an official come out roll.

Pass line bet and Come Bet are teh exact same bets but made at different times.
DontPass and Don'tCome are exact same bets but made at different times.

The Shooter's Point may be established and indicated by that puck, but that is the point for the shooter's come out roll.
If you or the shooter make a "come bet".... the point for THAT bet is about to become established (or the bet will be won or lost) Come bet won by a 7 or 11, lost by 2, 3, 12.
Playinnow
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January 15th, 2017 at 1:34:06 PM permalink
Like I said, I am relatively new and working on being more proper with terminology as well.

So in a scenario where I am betting the don't pass, the shooters point is 8, I have my don't pass bet and I cover the 4,5,6,9 and 10(also not sure if I should lay odds for each?) and the shooter rolls a 6 do I then bet the 6 again or not? And does the strategy continue the same, shooter rolls 9, do I cover that again.....etc.
Hope this makes sense.


Thanks
ontariodealer
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Playinnow
January 15th, 2017 at 6:03:46 PM permalink
if you are new to craps please don't listen to any of the nonsense posted above......you have two choices pass, and come bets or don't pass then don't come bets.....play as many as your bankroll allows....IGNORE all other bets systems or schemes.
get second you pig
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January 15th, 2017 at 7:39:28 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

if you are new to craps please don't listen to any of the nonsense posted above......you have two choices pass, and come bets or don't pass then don't come bets.....play as many as your bankroll allows....IGNORE all other bets systems or schemes.


Totally agree
I'm a dark sider (except when shooting)
That's the only bet I make. No odds, simply Don't Pass
What I actually like about it is that I only have to sweat the come out roll, after that way ahead odds wise :-)
"Everybody's bragging and drinking that wine, I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines, Come to Daddy on an inside straight, I got no chance of losing this time" -Grateful Dead- "Loser"
WatchMeWin
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January 16th, 2017 at 8:21:56 AM permalink
Quote: Playinnow

Like I said, I am relatively new and working on being more proper with terminology as well.

So in a scenario where I am betting the don't pass, the shooters point is 8, I have my don't pass bet and I cover the 4,5,6,9 and 10(also not sure if I should lay odds for each?) and the shooter rolls a 6 do I then bet the 6 again or not? And does the strategy continue the same, shooter rolls 9, do I cover that again.....etc.
Hope this makes sense.


Thanks



If you are a first time shooter, just play the pass line or the don't pass line to start. If you want to play with the table and have energy with the other players, then bet the pass. If you want to play the don't pass, it is up to you. The hedge I described is a way I play infrequently.. It is more advanced. Learn the game a bit first by observing while playing your pass or don't pass. You will learn a lot by watching. Experience is the best teacher!

If I were to limit my play to just playing either the pass or don't pass.... I would play the don't pass. Stay consistent and don't flip flop back and forth.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'

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