MrV
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December 26th, 2014 at 9:29:51 AM permalink
I suspect that the reason the craps crew reminded the OP that the dice had to hit the back wall is because they saw he was a dice setter.

No doubt they've seen a plethora of "DI wannabes" aiming to barely kiss the back wall and coming up short in doing so.

Sort of a "preemptive scolding," reminding them of the rule which most of their ilk try to circumvent.
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RonC
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December 26th, 2014 at 11:48:25 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

I suspect that the reason the craps crew reminded the OP that the dice had to hit the back wall is because they saw he was a dice setter.

No doubt they've seen a plethora of "DI wannabes" aiming to barely kiss the back wall and coming up short in doing so.

Sort of a "preemptive scolding," reminding them of the rule which most of their ilk try to circumvent.



Sort of treating a customer like crap in advance of them actually doing anything wrong. Why do that? DI is unproven (at best) and you can always wait until the customer actually MISSES the wall before scolding them...then you could justify strongly saying something like "the next time you don't hit the roll, sir, I will disallow the roll"...

I don't understand why people here would condone bad treatment by the pit for something that has not even happened yet...
MrV
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December 26th, 2014 at 11:56:05 AM permalink
I'm not in the casino business so I am only speculating, but I suspect craps crews have gotten the word from On High not to allow DIs to take any shots at a dead cat bounce or whatever the current flavor of the month might be.

Heck, with all the print out there (thanks, Frank) about dice setters winning millions from casinos, it would be foolish for casino execs not to try to stamp out this foolishness.
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superrick
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December 26th, 2014 at 12:47:07 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

He said that he was hitting the back wall; they still hassled him by telling him to hit the back wall.

There was nothing for him to "deal with" other than poor customer service.

We should follow the written rules and laws but why get hassled about something that you are already doing?


There is no written law about hitting the back wall in Nevada, so Alan is wrong,.. Casinos have their own rules that they change for different players. If your not setting the dice most casinos will not say anything to you if you just happened to miss the back wall. I've seen players never even make it pass the prop bet area and never have a thing said to them, because they were so old it was a miracle that they got the dice that far!

Some dealers shouldn't be working in a casino, they hate the players and will do anything they can to take it out on the players, one way of doing that is to hassle anybody that does not hit the back wall.
There is no such thing as customer service anymore in the casinos. Most of these dealers would rather stand at an empty table all day long, knowing that the other hard working dealers are making tips for them to share.

The worst thing that ever happened to casinos was when they started tip sharing, it allowed sub rated dealers to make a some what decent living if they are working on the strip,off the hard working dealers that know how to treat their customers! The dice bounce all over the place when they hit the tables anyway, without even hitting the back wall.
Quote: RonC

Sort of treating a customer like crap in advance of them actually doing anything wrong. Why do that? DI is unproven (at best) and you can always wait until the customer actually MISSES the wall before scolding them...then you could justify strongly saying something like "the next time you don't hit the roll, sir, I will disallow the roll"...

I don't understand why people here would condone bad treatment by the pit for something that has not even happened yet...


Bad treatment of customers is now the norm for a lot of casinos, maybe that is why we have some of them closing. I need toilet paper, I don't need to gamble. If you are treated badly move on to the next casino. There are a lot of casinos here in Vegas that I will not play at because of the way they treat their players. Don't patronize any casinos that give their players a hard time. Don't let any dealer treat you in a condescending way.
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...
rudeboy99
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February 4th, 2015 at 7:29:56 AM permalink
Actually, the stickman SHOULD somehow knock down or interfere with one of the dice when he does call "no roll". Otherwise, if the die are allowed to stop, unmolested, invariably the total is the point # or a hardway or field # everyone is heavily invested in and then the fight is on, the crew is accused of cheating everybody and it sorta goes downhill from there. So ideally, there is some interruption of the dies path when calling "no roll.

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