goatcabin
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January 29th, 2015 at 7:10:47 PM permalink
Quote: Concinnity

Oh my!

Well . . . good luck to you!



What do you think the "Z table" is?
Cheers, Alan Shank "How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"
mustangsally
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January 29th, 2015 at 7:28:38 PM permalink
Quote: goatcabin

What do you think the "Z table" is?

they are popular in small motor homes when out camping
they fold away too to give more space
the value in the Z

get well by Sunday!

Sally
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goatcabin
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January 29th, 2015 at 8:14:03 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

they are popular in small motor homes when out camping
they fold away too to give more space
the value in the Z



>:-)

Quote: mustangsally

get well by Sunday!

Sally



What's Sunday? (just kidding)
Cheers, Alan Shank "How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"
100xOdds
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March 9th, 2015 at 6:18:53 AM permalink
"How to prevent lots of $ from sitting on the table when the 7 comes?"

I switched from Passline/2 Come bets to a single larger Don't Pass. (all max odds)
ie: $5pass/Come on 3/4/5x table using 3point Betty strategy = $70 on table

$10 Dont pass/$60 odds = $70 on table
that way when I hit my win goal, I can walk away.

but with 3point Betty, I have to wait till my points resolve.
and it sucks seeing #s keep hitting when you're waiting to leave the table -> no fun.

but I just thought of something:
Why not use my Don't Pass strategy for Pass?
ie: single larger pass bet

$15passline/$60odds = $75 (if point=5)

Press as you win.
walk away when the last win meets your win goal
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
thezone
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March 9th, 2015 at 7:12:12 AM permalink
The best advice I can give is that 'hit and run' is best way to be a winner in the long run. Greed kills and pigs get slaughtered. If you are lucky enough to have made a profit on the tables, whether small or large, it is best to walk and start over another day. The casinos want players to put time in on the tables and stick around for a reason... over time, it is inevitable that you will lose.

Most people are not happy with a 20%, 50% even 100% gain on their money in the casinos. Many people cannot stop. Ask yourself this... how many times have you been in the casinos playing and were up at least 30% on you money? Think about if you you had left every time you were up , instead of sticking around and eventually losing that profit along with your bankroll. It adds up over time.

Be realistic and dont go for the home run every time. Especially in craps. If you are looking for that 30 minute roll every time, you will be highly disappointed over and over. Be happy if the shooter has a 5 minute roll and run. And even that is not a given.

The only time I stick around for a shot at the long roll is if I am 'free rolling' it. Meaning, I have already won money and then I take a portion of my winnings and let it ride....hoping for the best but expecting the worst. No fear and no great expectations.

I do hedge as well to protect box bets.

Good luck and stay smart!
Sonny44
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March 9th, 2015 at 8:51:00 PM permalink
Simple. If you're up $2K, walk.
mikes0805
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March 13th, 2015 at 10:07:42 AM permalink
Ok math gurus; question...

Lets say we have the same type of scenario; I walk up with $1500 and I am up 2k, and there is a lot of money still on the table. If I were to call my bets "off" every other roll, what does that do to my percentage of losing all of my bets after 20-30 some odd rolls?
goatcabin
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March 13th, 2015 at 10:18:35 AM permalink
Quote: mikes0805

Ok math gurus; question...

Lets say we have the same type of scenario; I walk up with $1500 and I am up 2k, and there is a lot of money still on the table. If I were to call my bets "off" every other roll, what does that do to my percentage of losing all of my bets after 20-30 some odd rolls?



1. Does the 2k include the money on the table?
2. What bets do you have on the table?
3. If you call your bets "off" every other roll, you will be very unpopular with the dealers.
Cheers, Alan Shank "How's that for a squabble, Pugh?" Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in "Yellowbeard"
mikes0805
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March 13th, 2015 at 10:40:00 AM permalink
No lets say I am up 2k (in my rail) and I have 540+ across plus hard ways. I'm sure they (dealers) won't like it but for the purpose of this equation they don't care lol. The shooter has rolled approx. 20-30 times, with an occasional seven in between points.
FleaStiff
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March 13th, 2015 at 12:02:29 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds


How to minimize the $ on the table when the 7 eventually comes?



You hear about the stock investor who asked how to buy at the exact bottom and sell at the exact top of the market?

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