moses
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November 30th, 2021 at 9:27:14 AM permalink
Definitely have to know and play within their tolerances.
moses
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November 30th, 2021 at 9:27:18 AM permalink
Definitely have to know and play within their tolerances.
BigDaddy316
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December 9th, 2021 at 8:02:18 AM permalink
The more hands you play per hour, the better chance you have of getting to the long run. So playing heads up is wise, if you have +EV. Otherwise, you are only losing money at a faster rate.
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December 10th, 2021 at 6:22:52 AM permalink
Quote: BigDaddy316

The more hands you play per hour, the better chance you have of getting to the long run. So playing heads up is wise, if you have +EV. Otherwise, you are only losing money at a faster rate.


This is true. Playing heads up equals a faster game and more rounds per hour and playing +EV translates to more money won (per hour) which is the top priority for most card counters and advantage players.

For me, there is something even more important and that is longevity. I want to win as much as I can today AND be welcome back to play tomorrow and the next day. I am not actually playing the same location tomorrow and the next day, but whenever my rotation calls for me to play again, I want to be welcome to play with no issues.

So for a card counter like me, the most vulnerable time is at the shuffle point when many players go from a large or Max bet back to a smaller bet at the start of a new shoe and a neutral count. That is the absolute biggest "tell" of a card counter. I avoid that biggest "tell" by making that an exit trigger. I exit at the shuffle after playing my large or max bet. So I am never seen retreating back to a small bet.

So that tell is off the table. Second most vulnerable time for a card counter is when he is playing his large or Max bet. If you are playing with other players the game moves slower and that is the time you are most exposed. You sit there with your bigger or Max bet out for 30, 40, 60 seconds while all players play their hand and payoffs made. THAT is the time surveillance and pit will notice "hey this guy is betting $400, $500, $800 when he was betting $25 or $50". So playing heads up, the game moves along quickly and you are only exposed for a few second each round.

Related to this, if your play (and larger wagers) has triggered an evaluation, usually done by surveillance, it takes 15-20 minutes for a decent evaluation. At that point the race is on. I want to get through this shoe of higher or max bets and exit BEFORE that evaluation is completed. Even if you are playing rated or they otherwise know who you are, an incomplete evaluation is nothing. When you exit, the threat is gone and that partial or incomplete evaluation becomes trash. It isn't saved or anything like that.

So heads up play, a quick game and good exit triggers really are the keys to longevity and avoiding completed evaluations.
unJon
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January 5th, 2022 at 6:33:57 AM permalink
Quote: molli70

Je pense que tu as raison, mais jouer en one on one enlève un peu le charme du jeu. Le blackjack live des casinos en ligne permettent à chacun de choisir le style qu'il veut, que se soit à plusieurs ou bien en one on one également.
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Le charme est de jouer mais la raison est de gagner.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
DRich
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January 5th, 2022 at 6:36:18 AM permalink
Quote: molli70

Je pense que tu as raison, mais jouer en one on one enlève un peu le charme du jeu. Le blackjack live des casinos en ligne permettent à chacun de choisir le style qu'il veut, que se soit à plusieurs ou bien en one on one également.
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Il n'y a pas de charme dans le jeu pour la plupart d'entre nous qui le prenons au sérieux. Ce ne sont que des mathématiques qui se jouent.
Order from chaos
ChumpChange
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January 5th, 2022 at 7:48:18 AM permalink
I played heads up Blackjack once in a casino last century. It was a $3 table and I turned $30 into $180 pretty quickly. Most of the $3 tables were full of senior citizens who came on a bus and the tables were very slow. My buy-in would be $50 on a $3 table.

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