Lucky
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May 3rd, 2017 at 12:36:33 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Thank you for the reply, Lucky. I was hoping you could shine some light on house edge. I have not actually seen it in action yet but hear that it has been received well. Hope to give it a spin in a few days. Wish you and it success. Thanks.

-BB


Sure BB. The house edge for the rules played at Eagle Mountain (normal HS17 rules) is 1.30%.

Please report back after your session, no matter what the outcome. Nothing more valuable than real player input.

Good luck! And thanks for trying the game.
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Paradigm
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May 3rd, 2017 at 1:53:16 PM permalink
As Lucky said, I am off the grid a bit this week. Couple thoughts on what has already been written:

I believe the game is being run at very low stakes $3/$3 or less so the perception is great as it has a $3 min sign on the table. Two bets is the way to go as the dealer simply pushes back one of the two bets as opposed to having to "make change".

Bob, from a strategy standpoint, if you pull back a bet on every hard 13-16 regardless of dealer's upcard and follow basic BJ strategy, the game is going to play very fairly. Split more often as it doesn't cost you more $$ and having two 6's with $3 on each hand as opposed to $6 on a 12 always makes sense.

I'll let Lucky give the specifics as I don't have them with me, but I believe the side bet has a HE of under 4%.

Finally, there is an iPhone App available for the base game, the Upcard Bonus update is coming in the next 30 days. Do a search on iPhone App store using "Halfback Blackjack" making sure HalfBack is one word. The App is free and no adds...enjoy!
Lucky
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May 3rd, 2017 at 2:49:29 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm


I'll let Lucky give the specifics as I don't have them with me, but I believe the side bet has a HE of under 4%...


The side bet in play at Eagle Mountain has a house edge of 3.43% and offers a nice variance to complement the main game (SD=3.0).

Paradigm, I hope Jill doesn't catch you going off to view this site on your vacation.
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Paradigm
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May 3rd, 2017 at 5:02:48 PM permalink
Thanks for that update Lucky...3.43% is better than I remembered although I knew we made those pay tables skinny in order to encourage players to play about 25%-33% of their main bet action there and effective hedge a bad replacement card outcome.

Plus as you said it adds some more variance to a BJ variant that already allows players to bet up to 3 units on great hands and as few as one unit on bad hands...do you recall the SD on the base game vs. standard BJ's 1.15?
billryan
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May 3rd, 2017 at 6:58:42 PM permalink
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Half Back BJ rack card

It's a fun spin on BJ where a player places two equal wagers, and on weak starting hands from 13-16 the player has the option of pulling back one of the two wagers, effectively taking "half back" on their weak hand...

Where did you see/learn of the game? It took second place at last year's (2015) cutting edge conference.



How is that different from surrender, beside that fact you only get 25% of your wager instead of 50%?
Am I missing something?
Lucky
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May 4th, 2017 at 4:16:39 AM permalink
How is that different from surrender?

You're not surrendering when you take 'half back.' You're merely reducing your bet by 1/2 its original amount. The remainder is still eligible to win - not taken by the house, unless of course the hand loses after it is played out.
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mrsuit31
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May 4th, 2017 at 6:20:51 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

How is that different from surrender, beside that fact you only get 25% of your wager instead of 50%?
Am I missing something?



As Lucky said, who is the obviously much more knowledgeable on the game than I, it's very different. You aren't forfeiting your hand/wagers, you are given the option/ability to decrease your bet size in the event you are dealt a weak starting hand of 13-16. That pull back option, along with the technical free spit option (as the side wager pays for the second hand) are some of the appealing features of the Half Back that make this highly distinctive from a simple surrender option.

Lucky and Paradigm are the developers of the game. They can answer any questions you may have....

P.S. in their game it's still 50% of your total bet, not 25% ;-). You place two equal sized wagers to start the hand, and have the option to pull back one of them.
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Lucky
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May 4th, 2017 at 7:46:33 AM permalink
Quote: Paradigm


.......... Plus as you said it adds some more variance to a BJ variant that already allows players to bet up to 3 units on great hands and as few as one unit on bad hands...do you recall the SD on the base game vs. standard BJ's 1.15?


No, I don't have the std deviation stat, but there's a lot of action with the player exercising the take back, double, or split options over 42% of the time, the breakout being roughly 33/6/3%, respectively.
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May 18th, 2017 at 12:02:09 AM permalink
I was there Sunday, and there were people playing. They appeared to be newbies sticking their foot in the water, and then moving on. I am sorry that I was not more attentive. I meant to check it out more, but I was busy trying to earn tickets for the drawing. And when I was finished messing around with other stuff, the game had died. But I know for a fact there were many people trying it, because I could see them from the other side of the room. Sorry, I'll try again maybe next week.
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Paradigm
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May 20th, 2017 at 8:23:48 AM permalink
Thanks for the report Bob! Good to hear there continue to be players at the table. The game has been at Eagle Mtn since late October so we are at the 7 month mark.

If you decide to play, I would recommend 25-30% of your total Main/Half Back bet action be placed on the Upcard Bonus side bet. It hedges against the dealer upcard replacement rule and a dealer blackjack replacement hand paying 20-1 hits just under every 70 dealer hands...with the side bet action, you may find yourself rooting for a dealer BJ!

I am biased of course but I think Lucky and I have a good little BJ Variant there with a lot more action/juice than regular BJ. Time and play will be the judge & jury on that opinion.

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