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Venthus
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April 4th, 2015 at 11:44:23 AM permalink
Thinking of this thread while on the Norwegian Star, I kept an eye out to make sure I saw all the values; at least when I was playing, there was no problem with missing values. But given it was 8 decks, they probably could've removed a dozen tens and it wouldn't be too noticeable. Regardless if the numbers backed it up or not, we were all complaining about how hard it was to make doubles.

Edit: I had swings of +16/-30 units, flat betting. Nothing particularly unusual, but it also felt VERY streaky.
100xOdds
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April 4th, 2015 at 11:52:55 AM permalink
Quote: Hubomba

My grandpa was on a cruise with my uncle, he had no interest in the DD game they had on the cruise since the rules were quite shotty but my uncle insisted so he just went and played so he would quit bugging him. He said they cut off a whole deck and then for 3-5 shuffles he had yet to see a Queen, when asked they said they took all the queens out since they are in international waters and can do whatever they want.

Due to the poor rules and the potential of that shit going on I would say that cruise casinos are a big zero.



lol.. furthering the myth.
which cruise line?
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April 4th, 2015 at 12:31:45 PM permalink
Quote: Hubomba

My grandpa was on a cruise with my uncle, he had no interest in the DD game they had on the cruise since the rules were quite shotty but my uncle insisted so he just went and played so he would quit bugging him. He said they cut off a whole deck and then for 3-5 shuffles he had yet to see a Queen, when asked they said they took all the queens out since they are in international waters and can do whatever they want.

Due to the poor rules and the potential of that shit going on I would say that cruise casinos are a big zero.



Just because your grandfather can't see and/or read the rules of a particular game doesn't mean what the casino did was in any way, shape or form unfair.
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April 4th, 2015 at 6:33:12 PM permalink
Quote: Hubomba

My grandpa was on a cruise with my uncle, he had no interest in the DD game they had on the cruise since the rules were quite shotty but my uncle insisted so he just went and played so he would quit bugging him. He said they cut off a whole deck and then for 3-5 shuffles he had yet to see a Queen, when asked they said they took all the queens out since they are in international waters and can do whatever they want.

Due to the poor rules and the potential of that shit going on I would say that cruise casinos are a big zero.



The ship casino is a vacuum cleaner for your cash.
Taking the Queen out makes it a Spanish 21 game instead of BJ. Apart from the higher HE you are playing to a completely different and wrong BS.
You would have thought they would have the good sense of taking 1 10, J,Q and K from each pack of cards and not make it so obvious.
Maybe some people would still play this game of "BJ" as they are playing for recreation. But it sure sucks plenty of your cash away.
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April 4th, 2015 at 6:40:43 PM permalink
I wasn't there, so I could be wrong, but it seems most likely they were at a Spanish 21 game and didn't realize it. The PB comment would be a teasing joke in most contexts, perhaps taken wrong in this instance.
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April 4th, 2015 at 8:07:18 PM permalink
Quote: Deck007

The ship casino is a vacuum cleaner for your cash.
Taking the Queen out makes it a Spanish 21 game instead of BJ. Apart from the higher HE you are playing to a completely different and wrong BS.
You would have thought they would have the good sense of taking 1 10, J,Q and K from each pack of cards and not make it so obvious.
Maybe some people would still play this game of "BJ" as they are playing for recreation. But it sure sucks plenty of your cash away.



Jesus lord, the game is basically a spanish 21 ripoff. They take the Qs out instead of the Ts to make it less obvious they're ripping off spanish 21. The game rules are clearly posted, and there are a multitude of bonuses to make up for the lack of Qs. The game may well have had a lower house edge than the standard BJ game dealt when playing correct basic strategy.

Just because some players are oblivious and think they're playing standard BJ doesn't mean the game isn't properly labeled.
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April 4th, 2015 at 8:25:28 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

Jesus lord, the game is basically a spanish 21 ripoff. They take the Qs out instead of the Ts to make it less obvious they're ripping off spanish 21. The game rules are clearly posted, and there are a multitude of bonuses to make up for the lack of Qs. The game may well have had a lower house edge than the standard BJ game dealt when playing correct basic strategy.

Just because some players are oblivious and think they're playing standard BJ doesn't mean the game isn't properly labeled.



If you read the OP comments carefully again he thought he was playing BJ. The S21 had a lower HE than BJ. Not really. I doubt it on the cruise ship. S21 you know the correct BS. It is much more complicated than BJ with the bonuses, etc.
S21 is a carnival game and much more fun to play than BJ.
Label, how many people read the terms and conditions in a contract.
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April 4th, 2015 at 8:30:47 PM permalink
My guess is it was this game: Fun 21
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April 7th, 2015 at 10:44:03 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

Just because your grandfather can't see and/or read the rules of a particular game doesn't mean what the casino did was in any way, shape or form unfair.


I suppose that could have been the case, I was not there and it was only the story I was told and I didn't bother to really ask about specifics. I guess I should have actually researched the claims.

As an earlier poster said, it was most likely Fun 21 ( a blackjack derivative I never heard of ). I can see them mistaking it for real blackjack since they are not the most observant bunch.
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April 8th, 2015 at 2:49:41 AM permalink
I haven't been on a cruise in years(probably around the poker boom) I couldn't tell you the name of the cruise line, just that it was a mexican cruise. It had good BJ, hand pitch 3 card poker and other games. The VP had +EV on a .50 progressives and lots of banking slots.

They had a very good 5-10 limit game with a fair rake. It was an ABC poker players dream. Bottom pair holders usually lead the entire way.

The food and service was great. I was impressed with the cruise on all aspects.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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