Ibeatyouraces
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December 14th, 2013 at 7:37:27 PM permalink
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Greasyjohn
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December 15th, 2013 at 3:48:46 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Can you link to that information? I always thought it was worth a bit more. What if they let you double down and split with it?

I used 100's of $25 and $50 Aces at stations casino's one year.



I know it's worth 51 percent. That figure is in many publications that are written for a 3:2 game. If blackjack pays 6:5 then the value of the ace is substantially reduced. I'm assuming that you could split and soft double. Tidbit: The Lady Luck in Las Vegas ( now the Downtown Grand) used to have first-card-ace coupons in their Fun Books.
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December 15th, 2013 at 7:47:23 AM permalink
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AxelWolf
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December 15th, 2013 at 9:19:00 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The only pace I know you can get one is at Four Queens and it's only once per account at sign up on the coupon sheet after hitting the free VP machine which is now a different contraption.

Shows how much you know J/k. If you look around you can find a few of them, not as often as match plays however.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Ibeatyouraces
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December 15th, 2013 at 9:34:14 AM permalink
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FleaStiff
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December 15th, 2013 at 9:47:08 AM permalink
Please be advised that due to a different thread wherein the Revel's offer of a free apple pie was considered unbearably cheap, let me say that a Free Ace Coupon with Ten Dollar bet limit is worth just about a bit over five dollars or just about what an apple pie would cost. A little more of a challenge to a black jack player but just about right for a slot player.

Fine print: Its Coupon counts as your first card, bet no more than ten for yourself at a 3:2 table. Its a pretty good deal if you are already in the casino or know that you will be there anyway. Its not particularly good as an inducement to trek there though. Just be sure that either way, you are having fun. And just like the pie, its not a meal.... its just a "dessert". A sweetener to liven up your play a bit. Its not some fantastic bargain, but its nice to use it up as long as they sent it to you.
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December 15th, 2013 at 9:50:12 AM permalink
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December 15th, 2013 at 11:27:13 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I believe so.



It is.

Some years ago a mathematician determined the optimal strategy is to forego doubling and splitting altogether, the reason being that they don't add much relative to the considerable extra risk involved.

It is questionable how practical this is: usually you can't bet anything like Kelly when an ace is coming, in which case the relevant calculations are different.
FleaStiff
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December 15th, 2013 at 12:24:13 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

It amazes me that people will spend $6.00+ in gas to drive for $5.00 in free slot play.

They are going there for the entertainment, would probably spend the gas money anyway and so they might as well get off their duff and do it with the coupon in hand.

Not even our fearless leader would drive nine tenths of the way to the casino simply because that was all the coupon was worth. Its an inducement, we never really think the casino is giving us much more than a fun way to start out at the casino with a little deal sweetener.
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December 18th, 2013 at 5:30:40 AM permalink
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I used 100's of $25 and $50 Aces at stations casino's one year.



Axel, I don't know if you ever met Hawaiian Derek. We called him the "fastest flush attacker in the west." When the light came on he looked like the Tasmanian Devil. Anyways, Derek related the story to me of limping into Stateline (Primm) from California with less than $100 in his pocket. He went through the casinos looking for anything to jump start a bankroll. He found a day tripper fun book on a machine with a $25 Ace in it. He scoured the casinos looking for more, even looking in the garbage cans. He would stand out by the buses and hit the day trippers up for their fun books when they were leaving.

Long story short, he left Primm a few days later headed for Las Vegas with $2000 in his pocket.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm

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