Quote: RomesLove seeing royals =), congrats! 5 Royals in basically 1 month, huh? I know it's been asked before, but since I didn't see a response: How much VP do you play??? Roughly hands/hour and then a hands/month estimate if you don't mind me asking?
Depends. If the machine is quick and no button issues, about 1000 HPH. I don't sit and wait for the credits to rack up on other winners either. I played about 1 1/4 hours today. I'd say about 3 hours average. Upright machines are a killer on my back. Played very rarely Dec-Feb. Yes, I'm running REAL good over the last year. Many SD's above expectation.
I'll give you a run down on how today went:
Bought in for $100 on JoB and was a loser from the start. Down to around $30 I finally hit quads (kings). This started the turnaround with quads coming in bunches. Ran that $30 all the way up to $292.50 when the losing started again. At about the $200 mark, I switched over to NSUD. Making no headway there either, but wasn't losing I held 2,2 and drew the other 2,2 in the first two cards. Cashed out $437.50 (up $337.50). Took a restroom break and walked around a bit to stretch. Went back to the machine actually just to pass about 20 minutes before leaving. Bought in for another $100 and started losing. Stayed stagnant around the $85 mark when I hit the royal. Cashed out and left 10 minutes later.
Quote: malgoriumHit 2 royals over the weekend!!
Nice!! Just read that post on that site. I've been getting beaten down bad since my last one. NSUD all day today, got AWAK, aces, 3'sWAK, and natural quad 8's SIX times! Couldn't make a WR if I got to pick the cards. :-(
One guy busted the screen on one machine after losing playing the stupid even money blackjack.
Quote: Ibeatyouraces
Nice!! Just read that post on that site. I've been getting beaten down bad since my last one. NSUD all day today, got AWAK, aces, 3'sWAK, and natural quad 8's SIX times! Couldn't make a WR if I got to pick the cards. :-(
One guy busted the screen on one machine after losing playing the stupid even money blackjack.
Even worse is when you get sick of making all those quads on DW, then switch to DDB, and of course, you get a quad deuces right away, and without even a kicker to make it sting a little less.
Quote: IbeatyouracesSat down with a $3.50 ticket just to blow it off. I lost the first two hand and then got this pile of $h!t on the last $1.00 in the machine.....
OUCH!
makes me not want to short coin deal draw.
(I save $1 each hand by short coining since the Draw has a higher EV than the deal portion.)
10 coin= 5 coin deal ($60k dealt royal) and 5 coin draw ($4k Royal)
9 coin = 4 coin deal ($8k dealt royal) and 5 coin draw ($4k Royal)
nah... I might short coin anyway.
dealt royal = 1 in 650k
'regular' royal = 1 in 45k
many semi-hardcore vp players have never had a dealt Royal in their lifetime
Quote: 100xOdds
OUCH!
makes me not want to short coin deal draw.
(I save $1 each hand by short coining since the Draw has a higher EV than the deal portion.)
10 coin= 5 coin deal ($60k dealt royal) and 5 coin draw ($4k Royal)
9 coin = 4 coin deal ($8k dealt royal) and 5 coin draw ($4k Royal)
nah... I might short coin anyway.
dealt royal = 1 in 650k
'regular' royal = 1 in 45k
many semi-hardcore vp players have never had a dealt Royal in their lifetime
While running of free play a little while ago, a lady next to me hit a one coin royal on Bonus Deuces for a whopping $62.50. It's a progressive too but the JP was at a paltry $1014.
I've never had a dealt royal, but one of my teammates have, on 3 play, with a multiplier =).
But I guess whether it's dealt or drawn, a Royal is a Royal.
OK if you insist.
Mission pops up anytime there is VP Porn. (-;Quote: Mission146Sweet hand!
Quote: AxelWolfMission pops up anytime there is VP Porn. (-;
Yes, it's been too long since I've gotten to direct a show.
You'll just have to keep settling for pics/videos for now ;-)Quote: Mission146Yes, it's been too long since I've gotten to direct a show.
Quote: AxelWolfMission pops up anytime there is VP Porn. (-;
so he's part time now?
thus why no articles in a looooooooong while? (at least in the Mission article thread)
Since they changed Joker games you don't see people hitting the 4700 coin Royals anymore :(
Quote: monet0412Oh I see we are sharing again... I hit two of these in less than an hour of play. However they were a week apart from one another but it is nice to just walk in two times and walk out up over 24k! I don't have the pic of the other since I left the phone at home but it was another 4 to the royal. This helped break my streak of missing about 275 four to the royal draws on single line before making 2 out of the last 4 draws I had that week.
Since they changed Joker games you don't see people hitting the 4700 coin Royals anymore :(
I am currently 0 for 122 on 4 to a royal. I hope I hit 2 quickly like that to makeup for it.
Quote: monet0412Well... to be fair... in my case I ran really good on two and three to the Royal Draws which made up for that drought. It's been over a year since I flopped a Royal. That hand is coming eventually and I hope it's on hundred play... actually I expect it this July because I plan on playing a ton of hundred play :)
Well you play a lot more than I do but right now I am struggling on 4 to a royal and are nearly 3 royal cycles since my last. I should probably start playing $1 or $5 instead of quarters since I am due.
Quote: monet0412I can't agree on the "I'm Due" strategy but I don't see any reason why you can't start rushing!!
Well yes the I am due part was a joke. But I sure wish the next royal would hurry. When I started VP in 2010 or so it took me something like 4 or 5 royal cycles for my first royal. Then I hit 7 or 8 in the next 3 cycles. Hoping for another one of those runs and looking for my first dealt one. Hoping it is on 10 play ux with a few 10 and 12xs
Quote: 100xOddsso he's part time now?
thus why no articles in a looooooooong while? (at least in the Mission article thread)
Busy month and working on a lot of stuff for our other sites.
My first royal took a few years. It paid $12.50. I was driving between Reno & Vegas, and put $10-20 in a multi-line VP game. As I was playing off the last few nickels, I hit a royal betting one nickel (five pennies would have been better).Quote: IbeatyouracesWhile running of free play a little while ago, a lady next to me hit a one coin royal on Bonus Deuces for a whopping $62.50. It's a progressive too but the JP was at a paltry $1014.
At the MGM, a very cute girl ran around the bank of VP & asked me to look at a hand. She hit a $2.50 royal on a penny. I gave her $20 for good luck.
...has anyone seen a $1.00 royal? (e.g. on some payables of Joker Poker).
----
My only dealt royal was pretty boring. Single-line quarters for $1,000.
Only five royals lifetime on heads-up play (four on single-line, one on five-line).
I don't like to sit for more than 30-60 min... which is why I don't play much poker or VP.
I was getting beat up all weekend playing all sorts of vp games. DDB, FPDW, TDB, JoB, BP, BPD, you name it. Nothing was hitting - or even worse, when it was hitting, it was on the wrong game: I drew quad deuces ... at JoB, right after switching from DW. I got dealt AWAK.... on deuces wild. And so on and so on.
I woke up early on Sunday morning and couldn't go back to sleep so I headed down to play FPDW for a little bit, since those machines are always taken during the day. Redeemed $10 in points, played with that, and busted that in a few minutes. Redeemed another $10 in points and put in a $20 of my own, and literally about 5 minutes later, this pops out:
I don't know how you guys react on a royal, but I don't celebrate or hoot and holler or anything. I usually just end up staring slack-jawed for a few seconds, trying to process and confirm that I actually hit a royal. Given that it was so early in the morning, I thought I was still asleep and dreaming. Anyway, just a couple of minutes after this royal, I hit quad deuces, too!
I figured my luck was just about done at that point, so I cashed out my $1,300 ticket, which turned my horrible weekend right into the black!
If I were to be vulturing UX, or something along those lines, and hit for 10k+, that would probably get a reaction out of me.
Nice hit, by the way!
Quote: RSI saw someone get dealt a royal on 5-play quarters and the player didn't seem to care. Someone else said something like, "at least pretend to be happy, you just hit for 5k!"
I about blew a gasket when I got my first dealt royal max betting STP spin poker for $9000. I was pissed a multiplier didn't show up!
Quote: Mission146I don't really have much of a reaction, either. While I've not hit a ton of Royals, I've hit enough that I am relatively unmoved by them, especially since almost all of my VP play is at the $0.25 level.
If I were to be vulturing UX, or something along those lines, and hit for 10k+, that would probably get a reaction out of me.
Nice hit, by the way!
Then why play? Of course unless it is an AP move. If it doesn't get your juices going then it is time for a new hobby.
Quote: GWAEThen why play? Of course unless it is an AP move. If it doesn't get your juices going then it is time for a new hobby.
AP move, and also, my lack of a, "Whoop-De-Doo," reaction doesn't mean that I don't enjoy playing. Trust me, I am quite happy when I get a Royal. I've just seen enough of them at the quarter level that on a single-line game with no special features, you're not going to hear any huge reaction out of me. I'll still get a picture (on those occasions I don't hit, "Deal," too fast) and text it to a few people...but there's no need to hoot and holler.
Quote: Mission146AP move, and also, my lack of a, "Whoop-De-Doo," reaction doesn't mean that I don't enjoy playing. Trust me, I am quite happy when I get a Royal. I've just seen enough of them at the quarter level that on a single-line game with no special features, you're not going to hear any huge reaction out of me. I'll still get a picture (on those occasions I don't hit, "Deal," too fast) and text it to a few people...but there's no need to hoot and holler.
Ok well that makes sense. I usually give a little fist pump, snap a pic and move on. Nothing crazy like yyelling but I am definitely happy about it.
I then noticed an unusual amount of security in the area, but they weren't swarming or together, they looked as if they were trying to be coy about it as they casually walked by and looked from afar. I was thinking to myself, I'm probably just being paranoid. Then I thought, no, something's definitely up.
Then I noticed one security with what appeared to be a laminated card reading it to himself, I knew for sure then. For those who don't know some security guards keep the trespassing speech on a laminated card.
Sure enough, after they paid me the security addressed me by my last name and said he was sorry to inform me..... blah blah blah.
Depending on where and what I'm playing sometimes it's a bittersweet moment when I hit something until the money is in my hand and I'm out the door.
Quote: AxelWolfOn my last Handpay (Not a Royal) I was not too happy about it. I had this feeling I was going to get 86ed this time. I couldn't do anything but just calmly wait for my hand pay and see how things were going to play out.
I then noticed an unusual amount of security in the area, but they weren't swarming or together, they looked as if they were trying to be coy about it as they casually walked by and looked from afar. I was thinking to myself, I'm probably just being paranoid. Then I thought, no, something's definitely up.
Then I noticed one security with what appeared to be a laminated card reading it to himself, I knew for sure then. For those who don't know some security guards keep the trespassing speech on a laminated card.
Sure enough, after they paid me the security addressed me by my last name and said he was sorry to inform me..... blah blah blah.
Depending on where and what I'm playing sometimes it's a bittersweet moment when I hit something until the money is in my hand and I'm out the door.
Why would a casino 86 you for vp?!
Who knows? I don't want to give out too many details publicly.Quote: 100xOddsWhy would a casino 86 you for vp?!
Casinos have been 86ing AP's for playing VP, slots and all other games(even people just betting sports) since people started beating them.
Some casinos just get sick of the same people winning. Oftentimes it's during promotions the casinos f***ed up on, so they get mad and 86 you.
I have seen them bring out a slew of security guards and suits to 86 a bunch of AP's before a promotion has even started( I can only suspect a darksider was involved in some cases like that.)
Sometimes you have a dispute over a promotion and you need to involve gaming so the casino gets pissed off and you are gone.
Hitting a few too many progressives got me ruffed up and backed roomed back in the day.
Nowadays most promotions and plays require a players card for there to be any advantage. I guess bonus machines, progressives, and a few other things don't(I don't know how much one can make doing just that). If you are hitting lots of jackpots it won't matter if you are using a players card or not. Sure, It might make it more difficult for them to track your history via wins and losses. If you are playing enough that you are hitting lots of jackpots they would be even more suspicious you are not using one. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.Quote: IbeatyouracesCase in point where using a players cards for certain machine AP plays is not a good idea.
Quote: AxelWolfNowadays most promotions and plays require a players card for there to be any advantage. I guess bonus machines, progressives, and a few other things don't(I don't know how much one can make doing just that). If you are hitting lots of jackpots it won't matter if you are using a players card or not. Sure, It might make it more difficult for them to track your history via wins and losses. If you are playing enough that you are hitting lots of jackpots they would be even more suspicious you are not using one. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I definitely agree with this, they're going to notice if you're hitting a ton of jackpots and then what matters is just whether or not the casino sweats that sort of thing. I suppose you could stay away from the player's club card if a handpay is unlikely on a particular machine, but if those are your primary machines (small jackpots) I can't imagine that most casinos care that much about you.***
***I don't mean you, personally, that's a general you.
Either way, when you're playing lower-end type plays, I think it's worth the risk to get the added value from using the card in terms of points and things of that nature. Granted, I'm not going to bother with the card to vulture UX or something like that, but if I'm on some kind of must-hit, of course I'm going to put the card in. That's especially true on point multiplier days where I am getting 2% extra just off of the points.
I really don't like UX overall.
I only had one Royal so far on this Game but it is better than no Royal. I can't complain too much I only held two cards.
I'll make a 3 ball soon enough.
Quote: monet0412I only had one Royal so far on this Game but it is better than no Royal. I can't complain too much I only held two cards.
I'll make a 3 ball soon enough.
hm.. in spin poker deluxe (20lines), if you were dealt 4 to a Royal, you have a 42% (20/48) chance of hitting a Royal?
if so, that's almost like Dream Card except you don't pay 5 extra coins per line?
and congrats on the Royal :)
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: monet0412I only had one Royal so far on this Game but it is better than no Royal. I can't complain too much I only held two cards.
I'll make a 3 ball soon enough.
hm.. in spin poker deluxe (20lines), if you were dealt 4 to a Royal, you have a 42% (20/48) chance of hitting a Royal?
if so, that's almost like Dream Card except you don't pay 5 extra coins per line?
and congrats on the Royal :)
No. You have a 6.38% (3/47) chance of hitting a royal. But when you do hit a royal, it either pays 7x ($28k) or 6x ($24k).
[spoiler]I'm pretty sure all columns in SPD are 7/7/6, although I'm not sure. It's possible the center column is 8/6/6.
It's 20 lines but community draw cards
Quote: WizardofnothingYou definitely don't have a 20/48 percent chance of hitting a royal. I think you are doing your math wrong
It's 20 lines but community draw cards
yeah.. you only have 3 lines :(
opps.. doh!