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coachbelly
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December 11th, 2020 at 7:59:50 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

No. Iím not going to go find your post where you quoted the challenge that MDawg is now saying you got wrong. You have all the quotes whenever you think anyone else is shirking a challenge but canít find your own post in this case?



I think you are confused...I'm not asking you to find my post quoting his challenge.

I'm asking you to find his challenge post that you claim I quoted...also the post where you claim you accepted, and the post where you claim he changed it to a bet.

But I can't force you to back up your claims with actual quotes.

Is there anything else I can help you with?
AxelWolf
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December 11th, 2020 at 11:00:46 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Warning given for bringing drama from other forums here. I'm quite sure I'll know about it if you do it again.

Please try to focus on finalizing the rules of your challenge.

Oh gee, I wonder how it is that you know about this? I assume it's the same reason for all suspensions caused by him and his drama.


Sure, that's cool, I respect the warning and you, BUT, I wouldn't call it drama, it's a serious issue that he should be ashamed of. I thought certain things of importances were allowed across forums. I think this would qualify.

I can see why you gave me a stern warning, I can only imagine it must have hit home with him being that it was such low down crappy thing to do and he would like for people to forget about it. I may not resist doing it again, if I feel it's the right thing to do. Warning someone of a potential l doxing from someone who seems to have a proclivity for such things is certainly worth a suspension.

Speaking of drama and warnings, I didn't see any warnings when he went out of his way to start an ENTIRE thread in an attempt to disparage, troll and cause drama with me.
Last edited by: AxelWolf on Dec 12, 2020
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
USpapergames
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:00:31 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

One thing I'll say is that it's hard to find anything at this forum unless you already know exactly what you're looking for, and even then the forum search barely functions. You're usually better off just searching within Google, but again, even then - only if you know exactly what you are looking for.



Guys, it upsets me to see so many people worked up over this. I have a solution & please 🙏 hear me out. Why don't we setting the dispute once and for all with video evidence???

MDawg has the money so he surely could buy these spy glasses to record his runs in the casino. Maybe even find some more expensive spy glasses.

https://www.amazon.com/Glasses-Detection-Activated-Real-time-Remotely/dp/B07RMY539S

I think these should be the rules for the challenge:

1. Challenge must be live-streamed, will not accept any pre-recorded video evidence.

2. You must state the exact amount of money in which you will be gambling prior to attempting the challenge.

3. Your minimum bet amount must be equal to or greater than 1% of your gambling amount chosen.

4. Your maximum bet amount must be equal to or less than 5% of your gambling amount chosen.

5. The total sum of all your bets during this challenge must equal the exact sum of your gambling amount chosen in order to complete the challenge.

6. All bets must be on the banker or player to rule out extreme variance. (Saying you have a system mean repetitive results not just getting lucky and hitting a dragon).

You are deemed the winner of the challenge if after it's completion you have a winning profit of

Betting Banker has a 1.06% house edge but I'm not sure what profit percentage would convince WoV since there is already talk of ridiculous standard deviations for explaining the MDawg effect. All I can say is that I would be convinced if MDawg could 150% whatever gambling amount he chooses.

MDawg, do you accept the challenge?
Math is the only true form of knowledge
AxelWolf
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:03:31 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

If you're not going to follow through on the wager which you proposed yourself, which is that I do not play as I claim, then I still don't see the point in your having money on deposit with the Wizard, as this wager we discuss right now, does not involve your paying me anything. Which, again, your money was already with the Wizard for some time, so your affirming that it remains there doesn't represent much effort on your part, wouldn't you say?

lets take one at a time and then move on. Who said I was not going to follow though? I SAID, I'll bet $50. The bet was intended for others NOT YOU and it's clear to many others why. I have made a similar bet for ]$200 or $300 regarding B79. You do not have to accept that wager, it's up to you. I told you many times if you want me to consider betting more you need to tell me what your bet sizes will be and how many hands. I explained why as well. Exactly how much were you thinking?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
USpapergames
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December 12th, 2020 at 12:18:58 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

lets take one at a time and then move on. Who said I was not going to follow though? I SAID, I'll bet $50. The bet was intended for others NOT YOU and it's clear to many others why. I have made a similar bet for ]$200 or $300 regarding B79. You do not have to accept that wager, it's up to you. I told you many times if you want me to consider betting more you need to tell me what your bet sizes will be and how many hands. I explained why as well. Exactly how much were you thinking?



I understand your position & you have a right to be upset but think of the opportunity I'm offering here. MDawg can't possibly fake a live stream of his talents and you could even move your bet to the live stream challenge so you still get your $50 in good ;) This is a win-win for you, don't give MDawg the opportunity to reject the live stream challenge because of your original challenge which seems to be much more difficult to pull off.

Just think MDawg could order the spy glasses and take the challenge & all of this will be over and I can stop seeing this retarded thread every day on this forum ;)
Math is the only true form of knowledge
unJon
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December 12th, 2020 at 2:06:46 AM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

I think you are confused...I'm not asking you to find my post quoting his challenge.

I'm asking you to find his challenge post that you claim I quoted...also the post where you claim you accepted, and the post where you claim he changed it to a bet.

But I can't force you to back up your claims with actual quotes.

Is there anything else I can help you with?

So you quoted a challenge by MDawg and canít find the post you quoted?

I accepted related to your quoted post. You said ďthatís the spiritĒ. Do you remember that?
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
AxelWolf
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December 12th, 2020 at 2:40:38 AM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

I understand your position & you have a right to be upset but think of the opportunity I'm offering here. MDawg can't possibly fake a live stream of his talents and you could even move your bet to the live stream challenge so you still get your $50 in good ;) This is a win-win for you, don't give MDawg the opportunity to reject the live stream challenge because of your original challenge which seems to be much more difficult to pull off.

Just think MDawg could order the spy glasses and take the challenge & all of this will be over and I can stop seeing this retarded thread every day on this forum ;)

I Allready said I would donate a spy pen for him to record a few hands making big bets. He wasn't willing to do that.

Aside from that, a live stream could be deceptive since there could be someone betting opposites.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
unJon
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December 12th, 2020 at 2:51:19 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

Quote: coachbelly

Deposit money in the cage and go watch him play if you don't believe him, stop trying to get others to do your dirty work for you.


If a trip of mine and MDawgís to Vegas ever lined up, I would be happy to meet up and play with him or watch him play. Happy to show him a $50k credit line at whatever the casino is, if that was part of needing to establish bona fides.



Coachbelly is this post from you (a) accurate as to a challenge, (b) intentionally inaccurate or (b) unintentionally inaccurate?
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coachbelly
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December 12th, 2020 at 7:32:56 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

Coachbelly is this post from you (a) accurate as to a challenge, (b) intentionally inaccurate or (b) unintentionally inaccurate?



Regarding your reply to my post, I'm not sure that showing him a line of credit meets the criteria of making a cash deposit at the cage. I would argue, based on the specific language used, that no...it does not.

I may have misunderstood that the challenge was an open invitation to anyone.

I'll need to research that, but I can't get to it until Monday.

I will be available for other banter after 800pm EST Saturday & Sunday.

If there's anything else I can help you with, forward a list and I'll address it ASAP.
terapined
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December 12th, 2020 at 7:37:18 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Fact. OnceDear is a moderator
Fact. OnceDear has pointed out trolling by CoachBelly
Fact. OnceDear as a moderator is supposed to suspend those he identifies as trolling
Question. Why is CoachBelly not suspended?


I agree
Mdawg is in that category
It's pretty shocking to me the Wizard let's this all go.
I've seen a lot insults from the dawg and belly against long time members
The whole thread is a troll on the forum
Coming onto a forum bragging that you are beating a negative ev game on a math forum when the absolute reality is a casino donation strategy.
The wizard is making a big mistake letting this BS go on
"Everybody's bragging and drinking that wine, I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines, Come to Daddy on an inside straight, I got no chance of losing this time" -Grateful Dead- "Loser"

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