Is there an advantage to knowing all players' tiles on a full table to narrow down what the dealer has?
If I'm not mistaken there is a pai gow calculator on the Wizard of Odds site that allows you to choose additional tiles that you know other players have in their hand. That will give you some idea of how much of a difference it can make.
On a full table of tiles there is always one spot that is kept closed and no one is allowed to play it, even though a hand of tiles is dealt there. This is to prevent exactly what you are talking about.
In theory, if you knew what all the non-dealer tiles were, then obviously you would have an advantage, but in practice, even at a full table there are always EIGHT tiles that will be unknown to the players. I don't know how much an advantage you would have even if you knew the rank of all eight tiles, because you would have no idea of the tile distribution between the dealer and dead hand.
One thing I noticed at a full table is that sometimes the players will want to know where all the Teen and Day tiles are. So, I guess if it's discovered that all of the Teen and Day tiles are in player hands, that might be some useful information some how?? I don't know, that's the kind of math that's way above my head when it comes to tiles.
Oct 19, 2009
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Do you have an educated guess as to what percentage of Tiles dealers have sufficient knowledge of an Oriental language to be aware of such collusive statements being made?
When I played tiles in Vegas a couple weeks ago, I'd say about 70% of the dealers I encountered were Asian and spoke Cantonese or Mandarin. One dealer was Vietnamese, so I don't know if he knew a Chinese language. I don't think the white dealers could speak it at all. When there were Asian players at the table, Chinese was freely spoken, among the players and with the dealers who could speak it. The dealers and pit bosses never seemed worried that any collusive statements were being made, at least not at Harrah's.