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Free Slot Play...I need advice

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September 19th, 2011 at 6:54:54 AM permalink
Niblick
Member since: Dec 12, 2009
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If you won free slot play at a casino and the following were not available, what game would you play and how would you play it?

NOT available are:

Game King Video Poker (or any other version of VP)
Game King Video Blackjack (or any other version of BJ)
Shufflemaster Blackjack (or any of the Shufflemaster Games).

In short, I cannot locate any games of skill in the slot area with which I am familiar; all games that I have seen appear to be of the mindless variety.

In another thread of similar topic, the suggestion was made to try to sell the free play to the nice lady playing the machine next to me...and may very well be the best way to go.

The venue is Dover Downs and the amount the the free play is going to be determined by the outcome of the Giants-Rams game.

So, again, I ask:

What game would you play and how would you play it?

Or, in the alternative, if skill games on slots (BJ, VP) do exist at Dover Downs, where are they?

Thank you.
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September 19th, 2011 at 7:38:47 AM permalink
FleaStiff
Member since: Oct 19, 2009
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Quote: Niblick
I cannot locate any games of skill in the slot area.
Games of skill? You drop the quarters in and you press the little red button. Skill??
September 19th, 2011 at 8:25:13 AM permalink
teddys
Member since: Nov 14, 2009
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Video Roulette (single-zero if you can find it). Even money bets only.

A penny slot with an easy-to-trigger bonus feature, play max lines one coin per line.
"If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling
September 20th, 2011 at 7:14:48 AM permalink
Niblick
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teddys, thank you for the advice

Fleastiff, I guess I wasn't entirely clear; you pretty much reiterated my understanding of slot machines. Knowing that I may very well be asking the impossible, I am looking to convert into cash slot credits in some kind of slot machine where skill makes a difference. The result of the Giants/Rams game along with total points pretty much assures me of slot credits (I'll find out exactly how much tomorrow at around noontime)...

but I've never played slots because, like you said, you put in the money and spectate.

and that is why I'm seeking any kind of advice, pointers, whatever on the best, most efficient way to turn slot credits into cash.

odiousgambit, the venue is Dover Downs (and you seem to know the Delaware spots); do you know of any VP/BJ slot machines on the floor there? I can't find any but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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September 20th, 2011 at 7:25:53 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Niblick
odiousgambit, the venue is Dover Downs (and you seem to know the Delaware spots); do you know of any VP/BJ slot machines on the floor there? I can't find any but that doesn't mean they don't exist.


If no one here knows, you could email them and ask. Or ask a casino employee when you're there.

One thing, though, in many vegas casinos with plentyful, if stingy, VP options, freeplay tends to be limited to slots and VP is excluded. In some cases only to certain slots. Last trip the only casino I ran across that allowed free play in all machines, including VP, was the Wynncore.

At the Goldne Nugget, free play was good only on specially amrked amchines. I made out ok, though, turning $5 in free play to about $4.50 in cash.

Anyway, if selling it to a regular player isn't an option, do you have any friends or relatives who would buy your free play and use it?
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September 20th, 2011 at 8:23:02 AM permalink
Niblick
Member since: Dec 12, 2009
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Finding a slot machine was never an issue (because I just could not have cared less);

Until now.

I suspect that free play will be excluded from all skill related machines; I will find out Friday night. I'm quite sure that by Saturday morning, I will have canvassed each and every machine.

As for friends/relatives as perspective purchasers? None admit to playing slots; I guess I'll have to find out for sure.

What do you think the discount rate is on free slot play, anyway?
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September 20th, 2011 at 8:29:39 AM permalink
dwheatley
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To be fair, you should offer a discount rate under the known return of the slots, since you are locking in the $ risk free while the buyer has to take on risk to get the value. So, 80-90%, depends on the tightness of the slots.
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September 20th, 2011 at 9:19:28 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: dwheatley
To be fair, you should offer a discount rate under the known return of the slots, since you are locking in the $ risk free while the buyer has to take on risk to get the value. So, 80-90%, depends on the tightness of the slots.


Agreed. In Vegas it would be more than fair to sell your free play at 90 cents to the dollar given slot "looseness" figures. Elsewhere it's another matter. And of course if they blow it on video Keno, well, that's their problem.
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September 20th, 2011 at 9:40:44 AM permalink
fremont4ever
Member since: Nov 24, 2009
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My advice is not to waste too much time over which mindless slot machine to play since (a) they almost never tell what the true long-run payback is, and (b) the difference between them is not significant unless you have a large amount of freeplay (over $100).

If you MUST make a distinction, for whatever reason, here are a few more pieces of advice:

1) The reel slots are generally better payers than the video slots, but they can be volatile, and they bore me to tears.
2) Those pretty video slots can pay often, but mostly for little amounts.
3) A big progressive might or might not be an option. They tend to block these machines too.
4) To maximize your time, play the big denominations. To smooth out your return, play the pennies or nickels.

Anyway, in your shoes, I wouldn't bother selling it, and I do have my favorite slots, so I'd find the first one, play, have fun, and then blow it all on some game of skill.

Good luck.
September 20th, 2011 at 11:47:27 AM permalink
teddys
Member since: Nov 14, 2009
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You could also try Video Keno at a really low volatility and really low denomination, like a 5c catch-1.
"If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss..." -Rudyard Kipling
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