Klondike Casino cited for low capital
April 14th, 2014 at 12:36:35 AM
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The Klondike, a slots only place in Hendertucky rumored to have the most generous comp system was cited for being underfunded on several occasions and now must issue weekly reports to the Gaming Board to show it is in financial compliance with sufficient cash and equivalents on hand to meet obligations.
April 14th, 2014 at 12:49:30 AM
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Gaming Machines - 65 total
Cool Millions Dollar Slot
Dollar Slots, 11 machines
Multi-denomination Slots, 51 machines
Nickel Slots, 101 machines
Penny Slots, 42 machines
Quarter Slots, 32 machines
Other Gaming
Sports Book
Restaurants and Bars
Klondike Cafe Restaurant - Restaurant
Cool Millions Dollar Slot
Dollar Slots, 11 machines
Multi-denomination Slots, 51 machines
Nickel Slots, 101 machines
Penny Slots, 42 machines
Quarter Slots, 32 machines
Other Gaming
Sports Book
Restaurants and Bars
Klondike Cafe Restaurant - Restaurant
April 14th, 2014 at 1:02:26 AM
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Have you been there lately? I loved the dumpiness of the Western. This is nothing like that. Most of the machines are turned off. Odds are there will be less than ten people in there at any time. Just a sad quiet eerie casino.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
April 14th, 2014 at 1:04:32 AM
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But the slots pay in coins if anybody likes that.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
April 14th, 2014 at 1:16:44 AM
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You're kidding! I didn't even know the place was open. I go by there probably 3-4 times a week, heading to Henderson, Club Fortune and Sunset Station. I have never seen more than 2 cars in the parking lot and I just assumed those 1 or 2 were from the gas station next door.
And I do enjoy watching the old coin dropper slot machines. I don't play them, but sometimes at Jerry's nugget or a couple other places I just watch the folk playing for a minute. There arthritic little fingers a funky shade of metallic silver. lol I will definitely stop in and take a look. Do they have VP?
And I do enjoy watching the old coin dropper slot machines. I don't play them, but sometimes at Jerry's nugget or a couple other places I just watch the folk playing for a minute. There arthritic little fingers a funky shade of metallic silver. lol I will definitely stop in and take a look. Do they have VP?
April 14th, 2014 at 1:23:12 AM
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They do have VP. Not too many turned on though. There was an oddball VP game when I went in there, can't remember what it was right now though. I've heard of places called a dump before; this one takes my cake.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
April 14th, 2014 at 1:26:53 AM
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I honestly didn't even know this place existed and I live maybe 1.5 miles away :)
“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill
April 14th, 2014 at 1:44:21 AM
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You pull up. You park in an unevenly paved parking lot with weeds growing in the cracks. You think about leaving but decide to check it out anyways. You go in. You see a hall of machines turned off. You immediately feel like you've entered some weird closed casino in a dream like state. You feel the urge to give a bum $1 to help him out but there's nobody there. You want to turn around but curiosity takes the better of you so you keep walking. You see a bar and surprisingly a bartender. ---
This will be you're story to finish if you choose to check it out.
Turn to page 62 if you choose to put $5 in a slot.
Turn to page 46 if you choose to order a drink.
This will be you're story to finish if you choose to check it out.
Turn to page 62 if you choose to put $5 in a slot.
Turn to page 46 if you choose to order a drink.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
April 14th, 2014 at 1:53:33 AM
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I'm going to politely decline the offer and will take your word for what does and does not happen there :)
Was this part of the original Klondike casino on Las Vegas blvd?
Was this part of the original Klondike casino on Las Vegas blvd?
“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill
April 14th, 2014 at 2:03:14 AM
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I don't know. I was just sharing my experience from this past December.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
April 14th, 2014 at 2:06:51 AM
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The place looks closed so I never bothered to check in. Did they slip up and forget to load up on their cash reserves of $100 for the day?
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April 14th, 2014 at 2:56:47 AM
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Well, that is the purpose of this board, so good luck. Its a sole proprietorship casino I think ... anyone want to buy the license?Quote: TomspurI honestly didn't even know this place existed and I live maybe 1.5 miles away :)
Or visit some slot machines for the last time?
Or just see the place before Harrah's buys it out for a song and a cigar.
April 14th, 2014 at 3:51:39 AM
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Used to live real close to there (on Russel & Boulder). I know some people who kinda go there sometimes (or I think at least?), but I never bothered. I might scope it out sometime.
April 14th, 2014 at 6:00:17 AM
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Quote: MoosetonBut the slots pay in coins if anybody likes that.
The guys that work overpayers like it.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
April 14th, 2014 at 6:30:18 AM
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With the owner being 83, I doubt she can test slot machines any too well. Maybe its a gold mine in the rough or something.Quote: mickeycrimmThe guys that work overpayers like it.
Its a slots only license, I think, but we can hire Pai Gow Dan out of retirement to run the place if we buy it. The license has got to be worth something, it sounds like the actual casino is a dump.
April 14th, 2014 at 6:52:48 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffWith the owner being 83, I doubt she can test slot machines any too well. Maybe its a gold mine in the rough or something.
Its a slots only license, I think ....
That 4/3/14 NGC list of licensees that I mentioned around here recently says that Klondike Sunset, LLC -- dba Klondike Sunset Casino -- has a full, nonrestricted license. Klondike Sunset, LLC is owned 100% by the Woodrum Gaming Trust, with John G. Woodrum and Ellen Marie Woodrum as the two trustee-beneficiaries and John as Manager.
I assume that is the casino being discussed here. It's at 444 W. Sunset Rd. in Henderson.
I have a souvenir $1 chip from there, which is really a slot token that I got playing blackjack there. I posted that token in the Casino Chip of the Day thread and told a little info about the ownership and the former Klondike on S. Las Vegas Blvd.
April 14th, 2014 at 7:14:00 AM
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So if it is non restricted they can have more slots if they want and they can have all table games that they choose to pay for.
Its simply they are sitting on the license rather than the property itself.
Is the license restricted to that 444 W Sunset in Hendertucky?
I wish I had the money to buy it. I could probably find a few winos I could scrub up and have them sign affidavits to my good moral character.
Its simply they are sitting on the license rather than the property itself.
Is the license restricted to that 444 W Sunset in Hendertucky?
I wish I had the money to buy it. I could probably find a few winos I could scrub up and have them sign affidavits to my good moral character.
April 14th, 2014 at 7:20:18 AM
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If you drive by it looks closed. Long ago, before Sunset Station opened and even for a few years after. it was a busy little place. I didn't think it was called Klondike Sunset then, I thought it was Bill's or Dave's Sunset, something like that. They had good food and occasionally good promotions. They gave away them bonus bucks for hitting 4oak and slot wins. It was easy to get comps at the place. I wonder if Dotty's will be a contender ( god I hate dotty's) and gut it, too big for them?
If you want to see a spectacle go to Opera house casino on friday/Saturday night's they turn the place into a Mexican dace hall with a DJ and everything. People dance in the middle of the casino while the music is blasting. Rough place
If you want to see a spectacle go to Opera house casino on friday/Saturday night's they turn the place into a Mexican dace hall with a DJ and everything. People dance in the middle of the casino while the music is blasting. Rough place
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 14th, 2014 at 7:41:19 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffIs the license restricted to that 444 W Sunset in Hendertucky?
I could only speculate, since I don't know the rules or how they are enforced. I assume that the Klondike Sunset is grandfathered for the unrestricted license, avoiding the requirement to have a sizable hotel on the premises. I don't know whether the owner could move the casino operations to a new location without having to build a hotel. I also don't know the relative difficulty between getting approved to buy a casino with an unrestricted license vs. getting approved for a new unrestricted license.
April 14th, 2014 at 8:02:24 AM
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My visit to Klondike Sunset was much like what has been described by others. It was pretty creepy. Like walking into an Edward Hopper painting. Everything's a little hazy, everyone's a little sad...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
April 14th, 2014 at 10:20:04 AM
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Are there any tables there? I just wonder if I should bother including it on my chip collecting run the next time I am in Vegas (which should be in mid-June). I know there used to be, but the most recent reports I have seen say that they have long since been closed - but I'm not sure if that means "always closed" or "only open at certain times/days" like, say, Silver Nugget (where I could still get a chip from the cashier even though the tables were closed at the time).
April 14th, 2014 at 10:24:16 AM
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This place used to be called Tom's Sunset Casino. They had blackjack, roulette, slots, and even one poker table back in the day. Back in about 1992 I played my first game of Texas Hold'em there. Most smaller casinos at that time were only dealing 7 stud but one or two nights a week they dealt holdem.
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April 14th, 2014 at 11:44:34 AM
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It's listed on the WoV Hotels list linked above.
When I did my official WoV Vegas maps, I included it only to have Mike tell me to remove it because he never heard of it!
When I did my official WoV Vegas maps, I included it only to have Mike tell me to remove it because he never heard of it!
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April 14th, 2014 at 12:20:03 PM
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Ahh yes Tom's I new it was a name like that. I'm sure I have a chip somewhere around.Quote: DRichThis place used to be called Tom's Sunset Casino. They had blackjack, roulette, slots, and even one poker table back in the day. Back in about 1992 I played my first game of Texas Hold'em there. Most smaller casinos at that time were only dealing 7 stud but one or two nights a week they dealt holdem.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 14th, 2014 at 12:24:10 PM
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Henderson, or as many locals are won't to say "Hendertucky", does not have the mega-hotel requirement for a casino.Quote: DocI could only speculate, since I don't know the rules or how they are enforced. I assume that the Klondike Sunset is grandfathered for the unrestricted license, avoiding the requirement to have a sizable hotel on the premises. I don't know whether the owner could move the casino operations to a new location without having to build a hotel. I also don't know the relative difficulty between getting approved to buy a casino with an unrestricted license vs. getting approved for a new unrestricted license.
Anyway, I thought it would be a nice opportunity for all the posters here to dream about picking up their own casino and "running it right" which of course would mean whatever our particular biases would be.
A large Dotty's? Maybe. More likely one of those new chains from the grocery store casinos. That Emerald Isle seems a well run but physically and financially limited casino. And upthread someone mentioned the dive bar in North Las Vegas that has evolved into a Mexican Dance Hall, dive bar and truck stop bar. All done on retained earnings by the way, not borrowed capital.
April 14th, 2014 at 12:43:13 PM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyAre there any tables there?
That's an interesting question, and one that might require a personal visit (or a phone call) in order to determine the answer.
There definitely were some tables when I picked up my souvenir chip (token). That was maybe about 2006, though I don't have any good record of it, and I played blackjack. Now, CasinoCity.com claims that the Klondike has a sports book in addition to its machines, but it doesn't mention any table games. Their page, though, has a link to a 2008 article that includes the statement:
Quote:Mike (Woodrum) runs the joint. But it's his father, John, who owns the casino, with all of 300 machines and eight tables.
I'll let you go there and find out how much has changed in six years.
April 14th, 2014 at 12:58:59 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfAhh yes Tom's I new it was a name like that. I'm sure I have a chip somewhere around.
Aha! A prime candidate for an entry in the Casino Chip of the Day thread. We are right on the verge of running out of chips from our regular posting members, and I think the supply will have completely dried up (though due to be refreshed periodically) by the time of the 2014 WoV Spring Fling. If you can find your chip and would be willing to post an image along with a little story about the place, please share those with us over in that thread.
April 14th, 2014 at 1:45:30 PM
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I think about 50 of us should pool our money and buy the place. We can give new games a trial (after the mathies verify they're viable, of course), have a place to hang, fix it up into a fun joint. Would a friendly British/Irish pub be a good theme, with good drafts, shepherd's pie, a few gaming tables, and the slots along the walls? lol...
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
April 14th, 2014 at 1:49:24 PM
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To much work to find it, I have my collection of casino stuff stored in various locations.Quote: DocAha! A prime candidate for an entry in the Casino Chip of the Day thread. We are right on the verge of running out of chips from our regular posting members, and I think the supply will have completely dried up (though due to be refreshed periodically) by the time of the 2014 WoV Spring Fling. If you can find your chip and would be willing to post an image along with a little story about the place, please share those with us over in that thread.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 14th, 2014 at 2:06:52 PM
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Sounds great. We might have to transfer the license to premises able to withstand upgraded surveillance but the pub theme with Guinness and micro-brews galore sounds great, as does the new game friendly atmosphere. A fun joint that lives up to Benny Binion's principles would be a nice change for Vegas which is too focused on skinning each player alive for every cent he has. With all those shopping centers that are 100 percent vacant in Vegas, we should be able to get a really good deal.Quote: beachbumbabsI think about 50 of us should pool our money and buy the place.
April 14th, 2014 at 2:24:50 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsI think about 50 of us should pool our money and buy the place. We can give new games a trial (after the mathies verify they're viable, of course), have a place to hang, fix it up into a fun joint. Would a friendly British/Irish pub be a good theme, with good drafts, shepherd's pie, a few gaming tables, and the slots along the walls? lol...
I'm sure you're kidding. And I have no money. But I'd gladly quit my job, move to Vegas, and work for equity...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
April 14th, 2014 at 3:43:28 PM
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ROFLMAO!Quote: MoosetonYou pull up. You park in an unevenly paved parking lot with weeds growing in the cracks. You think about leaving but decide to check it out anyways. You go in. You see a hall of machines turned off. You immediately feel like you've entered some weird closed casino in a dream like state. You feel the urge to give a bum $1 to help him out but there's nobody there. You want to turn around but curiosity takes the better of you so you keep walking. You see a bar and surprisingly a bartender. ---
This will be you're story to finish if you choose to check it out.
Turn to page 62 if you choose to put $5 in a slot.
Turn to page 46 if you choose to order a drink.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
April 14th, 2014 at 3:44:47 PM
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Hey, wouldn't that be worth it just to say you owned a casino in Vegas, and not just a few shares of a huge corporation ? So let's start interviewing for staff.
Maybe FLEASTIFF could loan RDW some of his winos as references !
As our first order of business, I suggest our marketing campaign would be to hire some students studying the film industry from out of So Cal (or better yet make them unpaid interns !), and have a reality TV show. Great way to drum up some business ? We could also set our slots very loose, advertise that, and still make money letting them run on auto-pilot, right ?
OK, I looked this up so our due diligence is done.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/jun/22/lawsuit-filed-over-planned-sale-klondike-sunset-ca/
Quote: FleaStiff
I wish I had the money to buy it. I could probably find a few winos I could scrub up and have them sign affidavits to my good moral character.
Quote: rdw4potusI'm sure you're kidding. And I have no money. But I'd gladly quit my job, move to Vegas, and work for equity...
Maybe FLEASTIFF could loan RDW some of his winos as references !
As our first order of business, I suggest our marketing campaign would be to hire some students studying the film industry from out of So Cal (or better yet make them unpaid interns !), and have a reality TV show. Great way to drum up some business ? We could also set our slots very loose, advertise that, and still make money letting them run on auto-pilot, right ?
OK, I looked this up so our due diligence is done.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/jun/22/lawsuit-filed-over-planned-sale-klondike-sunset-ca/
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
April 18th, 2014 at 7:20:07 AM
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Okay, but if fifty of us are going to pool our money I'd like to build a hotel for the casino too. And have a policy of no-upgrades.
April 18th, 2014 at 9:40:36 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsI think about 50 of us should pool our money and buy the place. We can give new games a trial (after the mathies verify they're viable, of course), have a place to hang, fix it up into a fun joint. Would a friendly British/Irish pub be a good theme, with good drafts, shepherd's pie, a few gaming tables, and the slots along the walls? lol...
I would join in if you would be willing to pay for the licensing. That cost will be much greater than the price to buy it. I would estimate $50k to $100k per person for licensing a non-restricted location.
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April 24th, 2014 at 9:43:37 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusI'm sure you're kidding. And I have no money. But I'd gladly quit my job, move to Vegas, and work for equity...
I would do the same. I think Steve Wynn once said that in order to make money in a casino, you need to own it.
I last stopped in the Klondike Sunset in early 2012 (last time in Vegas for me). On every trip, we avoid the strip, and enjoy our gambling at low roller hole in the walls such as this. I played 10 cent roulette, while my woman played a slot machine. We were the only 2 customers in the establishment, but it was probably a Tuesday at 2pm or so. Friendly little dive that could use some sprucing up, not to mention a bit of marketing.
Personally, I'd find a niche for it. Call it the vintage slot machine hall of fame (similar to Pinball hall of fame), and procure the oldest video and reel slots one can find. I'd try to get Sigma Derby in there too, along with a couple of ancient mechanical machines.
As a slot player, I miss some of the early video slots that have somewhat disappeared for the newer, more advanced machines.
Think about it, no one has done this kind of niche yet in Vegas, and I'm kind of surprised. The closest I've seen are the ancient coin dropper VP machines at the Eastside Cannery (if they are still there). When you win, the coins automatically fall out, immediately. No cash out button, and does not accept bills. I thought I read somewhere that they preserved these machines from the Nevada Palace due to their popularity.
April 25th, 2014 at 12:01:12 AM
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Those machines (that you mention are at the E Can) are still there, as well as Jerry's Nugget, Sam's Town, I think Sun Coast, and sure probably many more. But damn, they are just so boring to play (even though they tend to have the full-pay paytables)!
I'm sure there's a niche for it. A small niche...but still.
Perhaps if they offered an "old fashioned single deck" game, and other old fashion games (no idea what they'd be).....it could get at least a small group in there.
Unfortunately, most players prefer the new fancy stuff....and I'd imagine you'd get more players with fancy new stuff than old fashioned rusty machines.
I'm sure there's a niche for it. A small niche...but still.
Perhaps if they offered an "old fashioned single deck" game, and other old fashion games (no idea what they'd be).....it could get at least a small group in there.
Unfortunately, most players prefer the new fancy stuff....and I'd imagine you'd get more players with fancy new stuff than old fashioned rusty machines.
April 25th, 2014 at 2:29:03 AM
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We should get a party pit. I'm not sure about logistics, pay, training, or retention but it would be pretty damn sweet. Also we should give out Klondike bars for hitting a $50 jackpot...... oh wait El Cortez already does that....
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