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What am I missing

November 30th, 2011 at 1:53:40 PM permalink
beachboy
Member since: Nov 4, 2011
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Dear All

Scrap the previous question.

The bet is now 1 from 4 with 1 from 4 with 1 from 4

A bookies in the uk is offering 50's on the following bet.

The odds of England being drawn Poland (1 from 4) with Greece (1 from 4) with ROI (1 from 4)

Should this not be 27's

What am I missing?

beachboy
November 30th, 2011 at 2:25:57 PM permalink
thecesspit
Member since: Apr 19, 2010
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4 x 4 x 4 = 64.

1 in 64 that it hits. Not sure why you get 27's?
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept through nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire, for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
November 30th, 2011 at 2:35:57 PM permalink
beachboy
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why 4's surely 3 to 1 on each outcome?
November 30th, 2011 at 3:10:36 PM permalink
slyther
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I agree with 1/64. There are 4 opponents in each pot so the odds of drawing any given opponent out of that pot is 1/4.
November 30th, 2011 at 3:16:23 PM permalink
beachboy
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To each outcome there are 3 opponebts and 1 desired outcome, surely 3 to 1 odds apply?
November 30th, 2011 at 3:17:35 PM permalink
slyther
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1 desired outcome, and 3 non-desired. 4 total outcomes, of which 1 will pay you.


Edit: This is better:

If orange juice concentrate is to be diluted with water in the ratio 1:4, then one part of concentrate is mixed with four parts of water, giving five parts total; the fraction of concentrate is 1/5 and the fraction of water is 4/5.
November 30th, 2011 at 3:57:33 PM permalink
MathExtremist
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For a proposition with a 1 in 4 chance of winning, or 25%, paying off at 3 to 1 odds is a fair gamble. However, you cannot simply multiply the odds ratios for a parlay when stated as "n to 1" or you'll end up with the misconception held by the original poster. The odds of a 3-team parlay at 1 in 4 each is 1 in 64 (1 in 4^3), so fair odds would be 63 to 1. Paying at 50 to 1 is a sizable house edge. Multiplying "3 to 1" three times yields 27 to 1, which is not at all accurate.

To properly figure odds for a parlay, you need to convert the odds into "m for 1", where m = n+1 and n is from the original "n to 1" statement. Thus, the odds are "4 for 1", which cubed yields "64 for 1". Converting back to "to 1" yields 63 to 1. Anything under 63 produces a house edge.
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