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RFID Questions
| January 10th, 2011 at 11:45:16 AM permalink | |
| Ayecarumba Member since: Nov 17, 2009 Threads: 113 Posts: 2047 | Do the RFID transmitters in casino chips (like the Bellagio's) operate on the same frequency as the ones injected into animals? If so, could the robber(s) holding the recently stolen loot have them scanned at a vet's office or animal shelter? I assume the tags are hard coded, but is it possible to "erase" the code by exposing the chip to a jolt of electricity, or a strong magnetic source? Not that I have 1.5M - 2.5M in chips burning a hole in my backpack or anything.... |
| January 10th, 2011 at 12:14:03 PM permalink | |
| pacomartin Member since: Jan 14, 2010 Threads: 547 Posts: 6211 | Tagzpper (in Japanese) http://www.tagzapper.com/ will erase the chips. Some people are concerned about being surreptitionsly traced. Of course it wouldn't do you any good with casino chips as you don't want to erase them. Even if you could write over them, how would you know what to write to keep them valid and untraceable? Wine loved I deeply, dice dearly -Edgar, betrayed son of Gloucester in King Lear |
| January 10th, 2011 at 12:22:48 PM permalink | |
| FleaStiff Member since: Oct 19, 2009 Threads: 75 Posts: 4829 |
Read a current chip or two and clone them? |
| January 10th, 2011 at 12:44:44 PM permalink | |
| ElectricDreams Member since: Sep 8, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 194 |
Maybe, but if the chips have something like a unique ID instead of just broadcasting that they're legit that probably wouldn't work. I guess it also depends on how vigilant the cashiers are at the cages. "Weird, these two chips have the same ID. Oh well", or "Weird. This chip RFID is blank. Oh well", etc. |
| January 10th, 2011 at 1:04:15 PM permalink | |
| SFB Member since: Dec 20, 2010 Threads: 1 Posts: 92 |
I think a response like that by the cashiers would make them FORMER cashiers real quick.... SFB |
| January 10th, 2011 at 1:07:13 PM permalink | |
| DJTeddyBear Member since: Nov 2, 2009 Threads: 105 Posts: 5727 | "Weird, these two $25 chips have the same ID. Oh well", or "Weird. This $25 chip RFID is blank. Oh well" That's very different than: "Weird, these two $25,000 chips have the same ID. Oh well", or "Weird. This $25,000 chip RFID is blank. Oh well" Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown.
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| January 10th, 2011 at 1:13:57 PM permalink | |
| ElectricDreams Member since: Sep 8, 2010 Threads: 4 Posts: 194 |
That is a very good point. I retract my statement :-P |
| January 10th, 2011 at 1:24:13 PM permalink | |
| Ayecarumba Member since: Nov 17, 2009 Threads: 113 Posts: 2047 |
If the tag is erased, will the casino still honor them (assuming the erasure is detected)? What if you innocently walked past an MRI machine, or left them in your pocket while working at Yucca Mtn.? |
| January 10th, 2011 at 1:31:35 PM permalink | |
| RaleighCraps Member since: Feb 20, 2010 Threads: 29 Posts: 601 |
I bet they would still take them, just as soon as you told them the date and time you were playing there last when you received the chips....... ;-) Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
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| January 10th, 2011 at 1:45:17 PM permalink | |
| Doc Member since: Feb 27, 2010 Threads: 21 Posts: 2825 | Like RaleighCraps, I suspect they would accept them if there was no reason to think you had obtained them improperly. If they refused chips just because the RFID tag wasn't working properly, then it seems they would have be be able to demonstrate that non-working RFID-tagged chips had never been issued to customers/players in their casino. And able to show that the RFID tags could not fail unless deliberately tampered with. If they can't do that and won't accept the chips for full value, it starts to sound like a scam on the casino's part, and I think it would make an interesting court case or complaint to the NGC. Any thoughts on that? |
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