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Question about low and high cards

January 4th, 2012 at 10:07:03 AM permalink
joe
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Why are 4, 5, and 6 bust cards when 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are low cards, and why if 7, 8, and 9 are netural cards, 9s are included with the 10 cards and aces?
January 4th, 2012 at 10:34:34 AM permalink
1BB
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There are no bust cards. The dealer has a better than 50% chance of making his hand with any up card.

It sounds like you are referring to the Hi-Lo count, but you seem to be contradicting yourself. If 9s are neutral they are not included with the 10s and aces. If I'm missing something please clarify.
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January 4th, 2012 at 11:02:22 AM permalink
dwheatley
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I second the response: What?
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January 4th, 2012 at 1:49:38 PM permalink
joe
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I was referring to Hi-Lo. I was reading an article that I don't know but believe was referencing bust out rates that may explain the ommission of 2 and 3s. I was looking for a way to estimate if a deck in play was player friendly without having to count it immediately after the burn card and make a few changes to the basic strategy to stand when the chances of busting are greater than the dealer's.

Dealer's Upcard Bust-Out Rate Player's Hand Value Bust-Out Rate
2 35.30% 12 31%
3 37.56% 13 39%
4 40.28% 14 56%
5 42.89% 15 58%
6 42.08% 16 62%
7 25.99% 17 69%
8 23.86% 18 77%
9 23.34% 19 85%
10 21.43% 20 92%
Ace 11.65%
January 4th, 2012 at 2:27:43 PM permalink
1BB
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How many decks are you playing,Joe?
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January 4th, 2012 at 4:29:17 PM permalink
dwheatley
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I think we can assume it's a 6-8 deck shoe for what he's looking for.

There is no practical way to estimate the bust-out rate for any particular up-card after just a few hands - there are simply not enough sample points. Just jumping in to count (leaving the unseen cards as unseen) would be much more effective.
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