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November 10th, 2011 at 8:47:45 AM permalink
kp
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Are casinos ethical with the use of cheques?

Argument for yes:
They are easier to use to count, stack, and process
Handling that much cash would lead to dishonest behavior

Arguments for no:
They don't want the player to realize they are gambling with real money
They want the gambler playing a higher bet (e.g. there are no $20 cheques, they are $25)
It is easier to color up a winning player to get them betting with higher denominations

Other arguments?
November 10th, 2011 at 8:56:54 AM permalink
NowTheSerpent
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Quote: kp
Are casinos ethical with the use of cheques?

Argument for yes:
They are easier to use to count, stack, and process
Handling that much cash would lead to dishonest behavior

Arguments for no:
They don't want the player to realize they are gambling with real money
They want the gambler playing a higher bet (e.g. there are no $20 cheques, they are $25)
It is easier to color up a winning player to get them betting with higher denominations

Other arguments?


There thumb are $20 cheques that are used in Baccarat for the Banker bet and that could be used to track $20 Buy bets thumb in Craps.
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November 10th, 2011 at 9:11:56 AM permalink
boymimbo
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I never thought about this.

It's ethical because the casino can't operate using straight cash on all its games.
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November 10th, 2011 at 9:17:48 AM permalink
rdw4potus
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Quote: NowTheSerpent
There thumb are $20 cheques that are used in Baccarat for the Banker bet and that could be used to track $20 Buy bets thumb in Craps.


Lots of places use $20 cheques in pai gow and pai gow poker as well. It forces betting in increments that make the vig easy to calculate and pay.
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November 10th, 2011 at 3:17:01 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Why do you keep using the term "ethical" on all of these? Casinos are places grown men and woman can go to place wagers.

Cheques serve more purpose than "making people forget they are gambling with real money." If you forget that, well the fool and his money are lucky enough to get together in the first place. When I deal the monte carlo nights we sometimes use chips and sometimes "play money." I *HATE* using play money. You cannot count it as easily, you can't size in to pay off. It doesn't stack easily. It is easy for it to blow all over the place. Cash takes up more room on the layout. In real casinos, cash presents control problems.

Many reasons to use cheques.
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November 10th, 2011 at 3:33:23 PM permalink
Paigowdan
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Yes, it is ethical to use checks, serve drinks, and configure the windows and timepieces as they are currently done.
It is ethical for games to have a reasonable house edge as approved by gaming authorities.

It is not ethical for the casino or the players to cheat.
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November 10th, 2011 at 5:03:34 PM permalink
cardshark
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Why are you guys using the term "cheques"???

There are three things wrong with the term in my view. For one, 99% of the world know them as "chips", as in poker chips - I've never heard the term "poker cheques". Secondly, I would expect the American spelling to be "Checks" and not "Cheques", as in a checkbook. Thirdly, "chips" is faster and easier to spell (in terms of placement of the letters on a keyboard). So what gives?
November 10th, 2011 at 5:18:37 PM permalink
Face
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Because that is their proper term, and many of us are industry.

I thought it was strange when I first started too, this weird "cheques" deal. But now I thinks of "checks" as something you write and "chips" as something you eat. Calling them anything but cheques seems bizarre to me.
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November 10th, 2011 at 5:25:07 PM permalink
Paigowdan
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We do call chips "checks," spelled as "checks."
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November 10th, 2011 at 5:25:30 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: cardshark
Why are you guys using the term "cheques"???

There are three things wrong with the term in my view. For one, 99% of the world know them as "chips", as in poker chips - I've never heard the term "poker cheques". Secondly, I would expect the American spelling to be "Checks" and not "Cheques", as in a checkbook. Thirdly, "chips" is faster and easier to spell (in terms of placement of the letters on a keyboard). So what gives?



Day 1 of dealer class we were told, "Call them 'cheques.' 'Chips' are for bingo cards. We call them cheques because like a check, they represent a cash value."

Simple as that--cheque is the proper term. Can't say why the euro-spelling is preferred, maybe to avoid confusion with a paper check when writing it out?
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