Bovada is the only Internet casino endorsed by the Wizard.
Here are my reasons why and my promise of support.

When to cut losses in wrong way craps betting?

Page 1 of 212>
September 10th, 2011 at 9:52:50 PM permalink
bourbonstreet
Member since: Dec 1, 2009
Threads: 1
Posts: 2
I have had very good success in betting wrong at the $25 DP/DC max odds (5x) level (odds of 150 6/8, 180 5/9, 200 4/10...I know, for 4/10 its not max, but empirical data shows it is worth the lesser amount) with a $2K buy in, no more than 2 numbers in play at any one time, no more than 3 numbers per shooter to avoid chasing big red. This is the bedrock of my bankroll management plan. HOWEVER, the hole in the strategy seems to be when to quit when the table is hot and the wrong way is the wrong way. My estimate is that when the bankroll is down to one third of buy in, that's when I should seek another table or time. Statistically based opinions?
September 10th, 2011 at 10:04:37 PM permalink
EvenBob
Member since: Jul 18, 2010
Threads: 231
Posts: 6405
Unless you're playing a positive expectation game where
you have the edge, there is no winning strategy. Its all
just one long game where you end up losing to exactly
the house edge. The math never lies.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
September 10th, 2011 at 11:41:03 PM permalink
FleaStiff
Member since: Oct 19, 2009
Threads: 75
Posts: 4827
I wish you continued good luck then but I fear that three losses in succession and you will be at your stop-loss trigger point. And losing my first three rolls has happened all too often to me.
September 11th, 2011 at 12:37:40 AM permalink
EvenBob
Member since: Jul 18, 2010
Threads: 231
Posts: 6405
Quote: bourbonstreet
My estimate is that when the bankroll is down to one third of buy in, that's when I should seek another table or time. Statistically based opinions?


It makes no difference. You just pick up where you left off,
whether you believe it or not. You can't trick or fool the math
in a negative expectation game.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
September 11th, 2011 at 8:26:55 AM permalink
dwheatley
Member since: Nov 16, 2009
Threads: 10
Posts: 550
Statistically it doesn't matter (except the less you play, the better). I suppose you could choose not to place a bet you can't back up with odds, but otherwise, what Bob said. The higher you set your stop loss, the less you'll play, which is good.
Wisdom is the quality that keeps you out of situations where you would otherwise need it
September 13th, 2011 at 4:13:04 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
Member since: Nov 17, 2009
Threads: 113
Posts: 2047
Mathematically, it makes no difference what has happened previously. However, consider halving your base bets after each loss, and pressing 50% of wins. This should stretch your playing time before you hit your stop loss, while allowing you to cash in on extended PSO streaks.
September 13th, 2011 at 4:24:27 PM permalink
kp
Member since: Feb 28, 2011
Threads: 7
Posts: 422
Quote: EvenBob
You can't trick or fool the math in a negative expectation game.

How do you trick or fool the math in a positive expectation game?
September 20th, 2011 at 5:44:23 PM permalink
bourbonstreet
Member since: Dec 1, 2009
Threads: 1
Posts: 2
Bob, after reviewing all that the Wizard has taught me and your on point analysis, you are absolutely right. Hot/cold tables/shooters really don't matter. It's all the law of large numbers (Mensa Guide to Casino Gambling). Thank you muchly for clarifying my thinking on this matter.

BTW, last weekend in AC was AWESOME. Hope this weekend is the same. If not, oh well. That's why they call it Gambling.
September 20th, 2011 at 6:08:02 PM permalink
EvenBob
Member since: Jul 18, 2010
Threads: 231
Posts: 6405
Quote: bourbonstreet
Hot/cold tables/shooters really don't matter. It's all the law of large numbers (Mensa Guide to Casino Gambling).


If you're going to play/practice a lot, you'll eventually
see it happening right in front of you. Think of it as
a sine wave, with daily play represented by high peaks
and valleys, and long term play represented by gentle
ups and downs, almost a flat line, but not quite. I only
think about the long term and ignore the peaks and
valleys.
One casino owner to another: "It would be so much easier if we could just hit them over the head, steal their money, and throw their bodies in the creek." Al Swearengen, Deadwood
September 20th, 2011 at 9:01:39 PM permalink
buzzpaff
Member since: Mar 8, 2011
Threads: 82
Posts: 2835
hot/cold tables/shooters really don't matter. It's all the law of large numbers (Mensa Guide to Casino Gambling).

That whirring sound you hear is John Patrick spinning in his grave.
'
Buzz Paff
Page 1 of 212>

 

Bovada is the only Internet casino endorsed by the Wizard.
Here are my reasons why and my promise of support.